Using Unlicensed Music - GoFuckYourself.com

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 07:33 AM

When did sponsors decide that it was ok to use other peoples work in their banner designs? I'm talking about Lightspeed, GTS and any other sponsor who's using or has used music in their banner ads.

Do you really think that any of these companies are forking over licensing fees or royalties to these bands? Come on. This is no different than if you or I logged into a Lightspeed site, snagged some content and built my own site.

People are constantly jumping on others for stealing ideas, designs and content. But in this case of blatant theft, people decide to kiss ass.

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 07:56 AM

No one wants to tackle this huh?

Mutt · 03-31-2004, 08:06 AM

well i think it's because they aren't stealing from their fellow pornographers. it's still copyright theft but not as bad as stealing from within the 'family' and they're not directly making money from it.

Frank The Tank · 03-31-2004, 08:08 AM

how do u know theyre not paying them fees ?

Mutt · 03-31-2004, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by basadmin
how do u know theyre not paying them fees ?

High Quality · 03-31-2004, 08:09 AM

Heh, I've always wondered this myself.

Corleone · 03-31-2004, 08:09 AM

dont think theres a BMG guy here

so they dont care

shogun3k · 03-31-2004, 08:09 AM

yep, how do you know?

llabtaem · 03-31-2004, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by basadmin
how do u know theyre not paying them fees ?

You're right. We don't for sure, but unlikely.

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by basadmin
how do u know theyre not paying them fees ?

Come on now. Do you really think that Lightspeed or GTS shelled out THOUSANDS of $$$ to use those songs in their banners?

My buddies band had of a song of their in the American Pie 2 movie. Their a small independant band and made $12,000 for allowing use of one of their tunes in the movie.

I'm sure Metallica and the Beastie Boys command a much higher price.

pornohero · 03-31-2004, 08:30 AM

that's somethibg I also would like to know. how can it be that they use unlicensed music ?

Cyborg 2.0 · 03-31-2004, 08:40 AM

riaa doesnt' care...

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 08:41 AM

It's highly unlikely we'll hear from them on this one.

tony286 · 03-31-2004, 09:01 AM

They dont care until they get caught lol.

klik · 03-31-2004, 09:03 AM

BigFrog · 03-31-2004, 09:05 AM

screw the banners, how bout when they use the music in their videos.

it's one thing to promote your site with it, but to actually have the nerve to showcase it in your content?

fucked up if you ask me.

rowan · 03-31-2004, 09:07 AM

Funny to hear candyflip implying that stealing is wrong.

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by rowan
Funny to hear candyflip implying that stealing is wrong.

That's my whole point man. People have gotten on my case, when infact I hadn't taken anything from anyone. People can claim I have, but the truth is...I didn't. But a few big name industry companies do it and every kisses their ass or looks the other way.

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by BigFrog
screw the banners, how bout when they use the music in their videos.

it's one thing to promote your site with it, but to actually have the nerve to showcase it in your content?

fucked up if you ask me.

Who's doing this? I know that Sobe had a few videos with unlicensed music in them, but he did pull them when someone chose to ride him about it.

crockett · 03-31-2004, 09:16 AM

well I tought you could legaly sample a part of a song as long as it was under 15 secs or some shit.. thought that's how all the rappers and DJ's got away with it.

tony286 · 03-31-2004, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by crockett
well I tought you could legaly sample a part of a song as long as it was under 15 secs or some shit.. thought that's how all the rappers and DJ's got away with it.

Nope rappers pay for the rights to use that music. THere is no excuse when can go to sites like q music and get a shit load of royality free music for $99 a year.

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by crockett
well I tought you could legaly sample a part of a song as long as it was under 15 secs or some shit.. thought that's how all the rappers and DJ's got away with it.

They have to pay to play if they're using existing music or songs that belong to someone else. There's no way around that.

BigFrog · 03-31-2004, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip

Who's doing this? I know that Sobe had a few videos with unlicensed music in them, but he did pull them when someone chose to ride him about it.

ALL of the model sites for one thing.....im not saying the big companies are doing this....i make it a point to stay away from their sites....however, almost every amateur site i go to and download their video content, it all contains unlicensed music.

I guess girls need to strip to good music?

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by BigFrog

ALL of the model sites for one thing.....im not saying the big companies are doing this....i make it a point to stay away from their sites....however, almost every amateur site i go to and download their video content, it all contains unlicensed music.

I guess girls need to strip to good music?

Are the songs edited into the videos, or is it music playing in the background? I think that the second one might be legal, but I'm not positive so don't quote me on it.

BigFrog · 03-31-2004, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip

Are the songs edited into the videos, or is it music playing in the background? I think that the second one might be legal, but I'm not positive so don't quote me on it.

it's both. the majority being in the background.....however, i was under the impression that both were illegal.

ModelPerfect · 03-31-2004, 10:22 AM

Good point. I'd love to hear their response.

Fletch XXX · 03-31-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip
When did sponsors decide that it was ok to use other peoples work in their banner designs?

Why does this proven crook even voice his opinion on stealing when he has been shown to STEAL himself?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220057

you steal my designs and then have the nerve to post here about unlicensed things in banners.

funny is an understatement.

billywatson · 03-31-2004, 10:30 AM

Can't have music playing *anywhere* on a video...as long as it's recognizable. If it is, and you're using the video for commercial purposes (duh) then you've just opened the door to getting sued. It's that simple. I've been in the member's area of some huge sites and heard models stripping to Joe Walsh and Aerosmith songs...crazy. Why even fuck with that shit? Chances are, you're probably not gonna get hit...but what if you do? In addition to the headache of the lawsuit, now you gotta go redo all your work?

ANd I'll finish with this -- ever wonder why, in every porn DVD/VHS you watch, the music sucks??

There's a reason folks...trust me here.

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Why does this proven crook even voice his opinion on stealing when he has been shown to STEAL himself?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220057

you steal my designs and then have the nerve to post here about unlicensed things in banners.

funny is an understatement.

You haven't proven anything asshole. I built galleries that looked like yours. I didn't steal anything. I took your idea and built upon it. You don't like it...I'm fine with that, but I didn't steal anything.

Lightspeed, GTS and others are BLATENTLY using other people's music for their own commercial purposes...and everyone here seems to look the other way or kiss their ass.

Fletch XXX · 03-31-2004, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by candyflip

You haven't proven anything asshole. I built galleries that looked like yours. I didn't steal anything. I took your idea and built upon it. You don't like it...I'm fine with that, but I didn't steal anything.

You can lie all you want.

ESTABLISHED people here, DESIGNERS alike have seen the designs and although it has been awhile, and most of the people here may not know it, you were proven to be a crook.

Its as simple as that.

No matter how much you deny it.

Thats the funny thing, youre starting to believe your lies now.

People, dont believe ME or Berardi here.

You can check the link for yourself.

tell me, who would you believe.

The guy who bought templates and then 1 month later found the same templates in my portfolio?

or the guy saying "i didnt copy your galleries"

yet I showed the templates side by side at one time?

Jason, no matter how many times you lie, it wont change it.

so go aheadlie all you want. and the guy who said you were stealing bandwidth and fucking him over while you were working for him, is a liar to, isnt that why HE FIRED YOU CROOK???

the facts were put out long ago, by the guy you sold my templates to.

read the link dont read candyflips lies

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 10:40 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

You can lie all you want.

ESTABLISHED people here, DESIGNERS alike have seen the designs and although it has been awhile, and most of the people here may not know it, you were proven to be a crook.

Its as simple as that.

No matter how much you deny it.

Thats the funny thing, youre starting to believe your lies now.

People, dont believe ME or Berardi here.

You can check the link for yourself.

tell me, who would you believe.

The guy who bought templates and then 1 month later found the same templates in my portfolio?

or the guy saying "i didnt copy your galleries"

yet I showed the templates side by side at one time?

Jason, no matter how many times you lie, it wont change it.

so go aheadlie all you want. and the guy who said you were stealing bandwidth and fucking him over while you were working for him, is a liar to, isnt that why HE FIRED YOU CROOK???

the facts were put out long ago, by the guy you sold my templates to.

read the link dont read candyflips lies

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=220010

Feel free to contact Sharky my man. He and I worked that out. I was using GallerySubmitter.com to handle some of the submissions I was doing for them. The program was logging in and updating the recips. All the bandwidth burned was for Sharky's galleries. Broda verified that GallerySubmitter was indeed logging in and updating. I wasn't stealing his bandwidth. I've got two servers of my own and don't even use up all my own each month

If you consider me to be a thief, what do you think of companies like Lightspeed and GTS that are actually using and profiting from other people's work?

Meta Ridley · 03-31-2004, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by tony404

Nope rappers pay for the rights to use that music. THere is no excuse when can go to sites like q music and get a shit load of royality free music for $99 a year.

Links??

Thanx

candyflip · 03-31-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by Meta Ridley

Links??

Thanx

http://www.q-music.co.uk/

03-31-2004, 07:33 AM	#1
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,030	Using Unlicensed Music When did sponsors decide that it was ok to use other peoples work in their banner designs? I'm talking about Lightspeed, GTS and any other sponsor who's using or has used music in their banner ads. Do you really think that any of these companies are forking over licensing fees or royalties to these bands? Come on. This is no different than if you or I logged into a Lightspeed site, snagged some content and built my own site. People are constantly jumping on others for stealing ideas, designs and content. But in this case of blatant theft, people decide to kiss ass. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

03-31-2004, 07:56 AM	#2
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,030	No one wants to tackle this huh? __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

03-31-2004, 08:06 AM	#3
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	well i think it's because they aren't stealing from their fellow pornographers. it's still copyright theft but not as bad as stealing from within the 'family' and they're not directly making money from it. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

03-31-2004, 08:08 AM	#4
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03-31-2004, 08:09 AM	#6
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	Heh, I've always wondered this myself. __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

03-31-2004, 08:09 AM	#7
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	dont think theres a BMG guy here so they dont care

03-31-2004, 08:09 AM	#8
shogun3k Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 480	yep, how do you know? __________________

03-31-2004, 08:30 AM	#11
pornohero Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5	that's somethibg I also would like to know. how can it be that they use unlicensed music ?

03-31-2004, 08:40 AM	#12
Cyborg 2.0 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada T.O. Posts: 851	riaa doesnt' care... __________________ Need custom scripting? Need mutli category tgp script with thumb previews? Contact me 19671897

03-31-2004, 08:41 AM	#13
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,030	It's highly unlikely we'll hear from them on this one. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

03-31-2004, 09:01 AM	#14
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	They dont care until they get caught lol.

03-31-2004, 09:03 AM	#15
klik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: san diego Posts: 5,092

03-31-2004, 09:05 AM	#16
BigFrog Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,057	screw the banners, how bout when they use the music in their videos. it's one thing to promote your site with it, but to actually have the nerve to showcase it in your content? fucked up if you ask me.

03-31-2004, 09:07 AM	#17
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,373	Funny to hear candyflip implying that stealing is wrong.

03-31-2004, 09:16 AM	#20
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 74,510	well I tought you could legaly sample a part of a song as long as it was under 15 secs or some shit.. thought that's how all the rappers and DJ's got away with it. __________________ "If Israelis don't want to be accused of being like the Nazis, they simply need to stop behaving like Nazis." - Norman Finkelstein

03-31-2004, 10:22 AM	#26
ModelPerfect Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,862	Good point. I'd love to hear their response. __________________ Logan modelperfect [at] gmail.com http://www.modelperfect.com (Proudly hosted at www.webair.com )

03-31-2004, 10:30 AM	#28
billywatson Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Valley o' Smut. Posts: 3,279	Can't have music playing anywhere on a video...as long as it's recognizable. If it is, and you're using the video for commercial purposes (duh) then you've just opened the door to getting sued. It's that simple. I've been in the member's area of some huge sites and heard models stripping to Joe Walsh and Aerosmith songs...crazy. Why even fuck with that shit? Chances are, you're probably not gonna get hit...but what if you do? In addition to the headache of the lawsuit, now you gotta go redo all your work? ANd I'll finish with this -- ever wonder why, in every porn DVD/VHS you watch, the music sucks?? There's a reason folks...trust me here. __________________ We're Fabulous! PROTECT YOUR CONTENT on Twitter I Shoot Porn.