Homegrown Termination - Homegrown Response

[Far-L]

Please be advised that CEcash (Trade News Corporation, N.V.) has decided that it will no longer promote the
www.homegrownvideo.com website and that effective immediately it is terminating its marketing relationship
with homegrownvideo (TM). As a CEcash affiliate and pursuant to paragraph 3 of the affiliate agreement between
you and CEcash you must therefore immediately remove all CEcash 'homegrown' program materials, including any
banners and text links that advertise the homegownvideo.com website via any CEcash affiliate program.


This came as surprising news since I had to hear it first from one of our now FORMER affiliates on a web board...

All I can really say right now is thanks to all the people that have supported Homegrown Video. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

A more official response will be forthcoming.

[AdPatron]

[Spunky]

Curious what happened... it's too bad

[slapass]

Get your own program open . I and I am sure others have traffic to send.

[Far-L]

Slapass: That is completely cool of you to say I thank you immensely for the support!

[titmowse]

wtf?

[Far-L]

Originally posted by spunky1
Curious what happened... it's too bad

I can't go into any details right now but what is on the public record already does contain tons of info on where both sides were coming from.

[Jdoughs]

Nice of them to let you know

[fatal attraction]

Originally posted by Far-L
Please be advised that CEcash (Trade News Corporation, N.V.) has decided that it will no longer promote the
www.homegrownvideo.com website and that effective immediately it is terminating its marketing relationship
with homegrownvideo (TM). As a CEcash affiliate and pursuant to paragraph 3 of the affiliate agreement between
you and CEcash you must therefore immediately remove all CEcash 'homegrown' program materials, including any
banners and text links that advertise the homegownvideo.com website via any CEcash affiliate program.


This came as surprising news since I had to hear it first from one of our now FORMER affiliates on a web board...

All I can really say right now is thanks to all the people that have supported Homegrown Video. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.

A more official response will be forthcoming.

Wow...I'm sorry you had to hear about it on the board! I would have emailed you, but thought for sure you already knew!!! It was great seeing you again in San Diego! Email or icq me if I can be of any help!!!!
Lori

[Tempest]

I was going to promote HomeGrown until I read that they were sueing CE... Or something like that.. Or at least that's how I read the info I had.. So I've actually been waiting for this to happen. Let us know when homegrown gets it's own program.

[sandman!]

Even tho they are not required to CE could have given you a warning or something.

[Paul Markham]

Homegrown need your support to fight Acacia for us all.

CECash, did they sign up?

[Far-L]

I am truly humbled by the kindness and generousity of these posts!

This news really caught us off guard and I only expected very negative backlash.

My thanks reaches to the heavens and returns twice as gracious.

[HomeVideos]

A Homegrown program with just a touch of the right marketing would rock!

[eroswebmaster]

Man this biz is one of the most interesting yet volatile around...LOL

[JulianSosa]

Originally posted by Far-L
I am truly humbled by the kindness and generousity of these posts!

This news really caught us off guard and I only expected very negative backlash.

My thanks reaches to the heavens and returns twice as gracious.

Chances are everyone will root for the underdog in this case.\
Good luck guys

[SykkBoy]

get a program rolled out fast, I've been wanting to send you guys traffic for some time now :-)

[myneid]

lmk if you need your own affiliate program

[EviLGuY]

Change brings new opportunites.. you guys have a quality product.. you shouldn't have any problems adjusting really.

[Far-L]

The feedback here is incredible and I hope that whatever we do going forward that we will do it in a way that honors your generousity and faith in Homegrown.

We are still in a state of uncertainity and frankly shocked by CE's announcement; we do not know what we will do exactly because this took us completely by surprise. I do know that we must weigh all options in the interest of maintaining and growing our business.

[Mr.Fiction]

Long live Homegrown!

[Groove]

Originally posted by Far-L
I am truly humbled by the kindness and generousity of these posts!

This news really caught us off guard and I only expected very negative backlash.

My thanks reaches to the heavens and returns twice as gracious.

Any company with the balls to fight Acacia deserves our support. I look forward to learning about your new program so that I can resume sending traffic.

[foolio]

Originally posted by Groove
Any company with the balls to fight Acacia deserves our support. I look forward to learning about your new program so that I can resume sending traffic.

DITTO!

good luck - you have our support!

[kmanrox]

farrell, you guys can kick ass on your own IMO... yes cecash may have been a good booster, but i think you've always had the product and potential to be solo... now you're free... make the most out of it =) good luck and i hope to see you and the crew in florida!

K-Man

[TheSwed]

Homegrown is a great program...Let us know when we can promote you again....and the best of luck to you

[blazin]

Sorry to hear...
Homegrownvideo was the 1st site I ever promoted

Good Luck for the future

[chodadog]

Originally posted by kmanrox
farrell, you guys can kick ass on your own IMO... yes cecash may have been a good booster, but i think you've always had the product and potential to be solo... now you're free... make the most out of it =) good luck and i hope to see you and the crew in florida!

K-Man

What he said.

[Tipsy]

For what it's worth the little bit of str8 traffic I have will be yours if you open a program guys. Great product so it'd be a great place to send it to! Good luck with it all.

[Nathan]

far-l,

contact me on ICQ (1889711) or AIM (fthylmann) if you are interested in rolling out your own program efficiantly and fast.

It sucks that this kind of stuff happends in our industry, and we would love to help you get back on your feets ASAP. Homegrown has been an important name in the industry and it should stay that way.

[KCat]

Sorry to hear that Far-L, but I bet your own program will do better for you guys in the long run. The real, amateur content of Homegrown never seemed like a good fit with the cookie cutter CE sites.

Good luck!

[mindoza]

As a Women, before I was in this industry Homegrown was the only site I ever paid for. Better yet it kept my interest and i paid for it every month for a while!

If you want to stream your movies on our VOD site I would be tickled and honored!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Far-L]

If I ever let any of this go to my head, then I authorize anyone in this thread to shoot me dead on sight...

We appreciate the support and offers to help!

We want to make sure that everything is copacetic before we launch anything, but we sure are looking forward to the future!

[Tim]

Truly bizarre

[Far-L]

Originally posted by latinafind
Truly bizarre

Truce is always stranger than Friction... oops.. I mean truth is always stranger than friction...

[David!]

Update your links for webmaster sign up, they are still directing to ce

[Far-L]

Originally posted by PussyMan
Update your links for webmaster sign up, they are still directing to ce

We are still waiting for some kind of official notice from CE... I still only have third party hearsay to go on... and that notice to affiliates only affected that aspect of the relationship so we are confused and trying to find out what is going on.

[David!]

Originally posted by Far-L
We are still waiting for some kind of official notice from CE... I still only have third party hearsay to go on... and that notice to affiliates only affected that aspect of the relationship so we are confused and trying to find out what is going on.

Oh, ok..

[oldnewbie]

We support HomeGrown all the way, and our members love the HomeGrown plug-ins on our pay site. (Anyone with a paysite should have them).

You guys are a class act. Keep your chin up, these things usually happen for the best.

[Johny Traffic]

good luck for the future! Great site, get an affiliate sceme and let us know

[Johny Traffic]

By the way: Am I the only person here who didnt know what happened?

[Mr.Fiction]

Originally posted by mindoza
As a Women, before I was in this industry Homegrown was the only site I ever paid for.

That's a great endorsement!

[Mike AI]

HomeGrown made a mistake by working with a snake.

Glad they have free themselves and I look forward to doing business with them in the future!

[SixNine]

Far-L,
Hit me up when you're ready to cross
promote your new program to 6k-7k
SoulCash webmasters.

Homegrown will kick ass with it's own back
end.

Let me know when you're ready,

SixNine

[gornyhuy]

Yeah, I was really surprised to get that email. You guys rock - so please be sure to announce your new details once the dust settles.

[MikeB]

This matter is currently before the courts and therefore CECASH will make only a very limited statement. The termination of the CECASH affiliate program for homegrownvideo.com is precipitated by the actions of Homegrownvideo in repudiating its agreements and filing a lawsuit against Trade News, the owner of CECASH. The reaction of the representatives of Homegrown on this board are remarkable and in our opinion reflective of the disingenuous character and tenure of their lawsuit given the fact that Homegrown is seeking in its own court documents to prevent CECASH from "...marketing...or issuing passwords for access to the www.homegrownvideo.com site..." The actions of CECASH in terminating the affiliate program are therefore directly in line with the Homegrownvideo's own wishes and actions.

[chodadog]

Originally posted by MikeB_CE
This matter is currently before the courts and therefore CECASH will make only a very limited statement. The termination of the CECASH affiliate program for homegrownvideo.com is precipitated by the actions of Homegrownvideo in repudiating its agreements and filing a lawsuit against Trade News, the owner of CECASH. The reaction of the representatives of Homegrown on this board are remarkable and in our opinion reflective of the disingenuous character and tenure of their lawsuit given the fact that Homegrown is seeking in its own court documents to prevent CECASH from "...marketing...or issuing passwords for access to the www.homegrownvideo.com site..." The actions of CECASH in terminating the affiliate program are therefore directly in line with the Homegrownvideo's own wishes and actions.

The plot thickens.

[EviLGuY]

Originally posted by chodadog
The plot thickens.

It has a way of doing that alright..

[Hank_Heartland]

Good luck Far-L

[Nysus]

Originally posted by MikeB_CE
This matter is currently before the courts and therefore CECASH will make only a very limited statement. The termination of the CECASH affiliate program for homegrownvideo.com is precipitated by the actions of Homegrownvideo in repudiating its agreements and filing a lawsuit against Trade News, the owner of CECASH. The reaction of the representatives of Homegrown on this board are remarkable and in our opinion reflective of the disingenuous character and tenure of their lawsuit given the fact that Homegrown is seeking in its own court documents to prevent CECASH from "...marketing...or issuing passwords for access to the www.homegrownvideo.com site..." The actions of CECASH in terminating the affiliate program are therefore directly in line with the Homegrownvideo's own wishes and actions.

Uhm... Only reason I'd see Homegrownvideo wanting to stop CECash from sending members to their site would be that they weren't getting what they were supposed to for it / issuing memberships without giving the funds as well? Can only make assumptions for now of course.. guess we'll all find out later.

Best of luck to everyone.

Cheers,
Matt

[Far-L]

All I can say is that what is on the public record reflects clearly the many issues that we have with CE that they would not resolve when we asked nicely first.

I am very sorry to see that Mike B has to put the spin on for CE since he was well aware of our efforts to rectify many of those issues before we became obligated by CE's actions to seek legal remedy.

The Judge said clearly on the record that she "would have likely granted the injunction".

CE can act as though they shut us down in response to our suit, but the record clearly shows that they were unwilling to do it when we requested that they do so because of their abusive practices and egregious actions.

The fact that they took it down without notifying us or negotiating any sort of appropriate plan for closing down the program demonstrates a lack of concern for "doing the right thing" by us or our affiliates. They can spin this any way they like but the facts will continue to speak for themselves.