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07-29-2004, 01:56 PM | #81 | |
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As always, your class shines through. (and for the record, I agree ) As a friend to all three ISPS mentioned in this thread, I can tell you that this is a good move for both parties involved and a good move for the ISPS industry as well as for the Adult Industry, as a whole. I am excited about all of the new things that Jettis is adding to their offerings in the coming months since my mainstream companies use their Gateway Services! I know Ken and Kjell well enough to know that this move is simply making way for bigger and better things!! I am also pumped to see Epoch continuing to grow their dominance in the marketplace. As a customer and supporter of theirs since 1997 I have seen them weather the storms and always come out on top....Kudos to Chris, Clay, Rand, and the whole Epoch Crew. You guys are deserving of great things. --T |
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07-29-2004, 01:57 PM | #82 | |
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No, Paycom is not taking over our affiliate software program (Jumbo). However, Jumbo is fully integrated with Paycom so all Jumbo clients will not be effected at all. In fact, this brings up a good point. All Paycom customers can now use our top notche affiliate software. Contact us for rates and a demo! |
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07-29-2004, 02:00 PM | #83 | |
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I am referring to affiliate programs. Mainly those that do not do their own coding so reseller links will need to be changed. And then there are the galleries out there with old codes. Those are always fun. I suppose I will have to figure out what needs to be changed and hopefully will not lose any sales in the meantime. |
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07-29-2004, 02:11 PM | #84 |
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Will there be any Visa fee refunds to those that have recently signed up with Jettis, but have not processed yet, who are also Epoch clients?
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07-29-2004, 02:14 PM | #85 |
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Imagine if ccbill gets bought out. Now thats a lot of fucking link codes that will need to be changed.
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07-29-2004, 02:14 PM | #86 | |
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Sweet T, Thanks man! Coming from you, that means a lot. We're excited to be working with the Paycom guys and about taking some of our key products to the next level! |
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07-29-2004, 02:21 PM | #87 | |
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Thanks to all of you that have expressed your support. Clay, Joel and I are very proud of this transaction and of our staff that have all worked to build our company into what we are today. This is a work in progress and we are very fortunate to have a great group of people. The fine people of Jettis have been a pleasure to do business with and we will be doing a lot of other business together, for a long time. To any of you that have concerns, please email me at [email protected] You may not get a reply for a while, we are kind of busy as you can imagine. Again, I won?t have all of the answers but I, along with my partners and our staff, will work hard for you in getting the answers. We have always been 110% committed to the Adult Webmaster market, uninterrupted since 1996. We are more committed today. Thanks again for your support. C |
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07-29-2004, 02:21 PM | #88 | |
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07-29-2004, 02:25 PM | #89 | |
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Please look for Sweet T at Internext on the State of The Industy Panel. I am sure he will have some interesting insights. |
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07-29-2004, 02:28 PM | #90 | |
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The last year has been hell in terms of changing link codes. Although its a good way to clean house of some sponsors for sure. My main concern is staying on top of things in case some companies don't give proper notice. ;) |
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07-29-2004, 02:50 PM | #93 | |
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07-29-2004, 02:52 PM | #94 |
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Chris, please clarify a couple of things for me...
1. Will Jettis clients still be able to use the jumbo software (Jettis's affiliate software)? 2. I have signed on to Jettis, done almost all of the paperworks, and locked in a good proccesing rate, but have not begun proccesing with Jetiis yet...will that rate still stand, and will I have to start the whole process over with epoch now as far as the paperwork and such? Thanks
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07-29-2004, 02:54 PM | #95 |
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this is huge news. congrats chris |
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Shap, I find it intersting that you think this is bad while so many others think it's good.
Isn't 1 bigger, better proccessor a more favorable option than 2 smaller, less qualified processors? What's so bad about Epoch? |
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Congrats
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Congrats. I hope this helps everyone out.
Cheers, Matt
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With respect to EU processing, Jettis has not supported EU clients on Visa for a long time. However, those clients that are "Visa disabled" (accepting only MasterCard and Discover) will continue uninterrupted. Kjell
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07-29-2004, 03:25 PM | #100 | |
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07-29-2004, 03:27 PM | #101 | |
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VISA and Mastercard have to be happy. The group of companies they are keeping tabs on just got smaller. This looks to me like Jettis found the IPSP market to be not as worthwhile to pursue as gateway services to merchant account holders. You have to ask yourself why is that? I don't think they would have sold to Paycom if they believed there was nothing but blue skies and improving margins on the horizon. Large size doesnt not necessarily mean stability. Our own industry has a good example of this with DMR. I am with Shap and Mutt on this, I think the closure of one of the remaining IPSPs has the potential to be a bad thing. I hope I am wrong. Ok back to the festivities again. Sorry to be Mr Devil's advocate. |
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07-29-2004, 03:36 PM | #104 |
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Good news!
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Congratulations to Both Epoch and Jettis Chris and Ken are both very bright business men and straight up Good people Great News And then there were two? Epoch and CCbill ~Roger
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One way of thinking - would you rather have 2 sub optimal choices or 1 optimal choice? Whether or not the new formation will be more optimal than the other 2 seperate is yet to be determined... |
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07-29-2004, 04:04 PM | #107 |
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Hi Kush.
Scoreman hit the nail on the head. For the past year I've had the feeling Jettis was close to leaving the ipsp market. I think most people knew it was just a matter of time. I really don't think epoch is gaining as much as people think. As I said earlier, if someone is not processing with Epoch then there is probably a reason for it. The same way if someone is not processing with ibill there is a reason for it. By epoch buying jettis that doesn't mean those clients will all of a sudden be willing to use Epoch as their primary processor. And if someone was using Epoch and Jettis now they will go out and use Ccbill or ibill. So I don't think epoch is coming out as big as everyone is making this out to be. In this situation the only winner is jettis. They get to exit the IPSP market with their head up and not having to say they closed down like so many others. Epoch picks up some business so they come out ahead. And all us jettis webmasters are big losers because the company we chose to process with is no longer an option. And to answer your other question, what do I have against Epoch? I don't have anything against them. I just prefer to not use them as my processor. I believe, of the 3 remaining processors, Epoch is by far the riskiest. They allow multiple cross sells. They seem to be the gathering spot for all Pay per signup companies. And pay per signup companies are proven to be a problem for chargebacks. |
07-29-2004, 04:10 PM | #108 | |
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As you know, the situation is a bit different now. Only the merchant of record (IPSP) can gather the credit card data. Visa now tracks down to the sponsored merchant, thus removing the bad seeds rather than the group taking the blame for individuals. There is a laundry list of things in the credit card game that are much different than when DMR went down. I would never say that a processor is bulletproof, but dodging bullets is a lot easier these days.
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07-29-2004, 04:13 PM | #109 |
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This is so huge.
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Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!
Chris, Clay, Joel, Rand and everyone at Paycom you have done it again. From everyone at CCbill we congratulate you on this great move. Ken and Kjell have always been two of the smartest individuals in this business, and I am truly excited to only imagine what great new products Jettis will release with there new war chest of money)) Chris you are a true industry leader and I am confident that Paycom will be able to provide the same high level of service that Jettis customers have experienced under Kjell and Ken for the last several years. CCbill also recommends Paycom as the only secondary option for IPSP billing. There maybe others, but why settle for anything less. Chris we will have to toast in Hollywood and the Cristal is on me) I might even have to get one of those Tantra size bottles that Joel is so found of. Ron Cadwell CEO CCBill.com Cavecreek.com DrmNetworks.com |
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I guess ill go with Paycom! :P
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Any SMASHBUCKS affiliates that have questions please contact Carlito, Mike or Spikes.
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Congrats to Epoch & Jettis!
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Chris, Clay and Rand,
Congrats on the new acquisition from the Netbilling team. The Jettis crew is a fine bunch and you are certainly picking up some good merchants. Looking forward to a successful Internext and a great year for all of us. Mitch Farber
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So what happened to those cam sites that use Jettis and have the no charge free memberships?
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Congrats to all parties involved, sounds like win win...
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Thank you Ron. I appreciate your kind words and support. We like and respect you and all of the folks at CCBill / Cavecreek. And since the Cristal is on you, let?s go for the Magnum! See you in sunny FLA! C |
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