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Old 05-19-2004, 05:59 PM   #1
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PLAYERS BALL PULLS OUT OF INTERNEXT - ends 5 1/2 year relationship

Due to the unfortunate firing of my wife, Jennifer ( JenAVN) yesterday and the circumstances involving it, I feel I can no longer go on supporting AVN's internet events at this time.
As many of you know, Jen had been with AVN for 9 years and while she is hardly credited for most of her accomplishments while working there- she was instrumental in their growth and it's development of AVN ONLINE.

I feel like there's been a death in my household to say the least.

I apologize to all the webmasters who were planning on coming to FLA just to attend the Player's Ball. I appreciate your support over the years and look very much forward to taking the Player's Ball's to new heights- and of course I still want to see as many webmasters at my parties as possible.

For those of you coming to San Diego June 10th for the Cybernet Expo Players Ball to see Eek-A-Mouse at Canes, we still look forward to seeing you party with us in full force.

This does not mean this is the end of the Players Balls. This is just a new beginning for the Players Ball. Look for the rebirth and annoucements in the near future.

For those that aren't aware of the history of the Players Ball, we've had a streak of 11 Players Ball's catering to Internext dating back to IA2000, never missing one show.
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Old 05-19-2004, 05:59 PM   #2
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well now I feel like an ass for missing the last one..

And I guess that also means that too short won't be in florida this year either.
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wow d-$ that is big news..even though year before lasts show was indoors you pulled off a damn good show!
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Wow that sucks man sorry to hear. I was looking foward to it this year
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Sorry to hear about the family loss, I am sure you will survive quite nicely though
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you know i honestly was going to the show for the players ball

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well at least now you could tie it in with the webmaster access shows
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well at least now you could tie it in with the webmaster access shows
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What have I been saying since day one about AVN???

D$ you should pay more attention....
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wow, darren...that's depressing. jennifer truly was a staple at AVN.
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Sorry to hear about the family loss, I am sure you will survive quite nicely though
WTF??? She didn't die....
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No one really died people! It just feels like it.
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We all know that one of the main reasons the 2 largest conference shows were the largest was because of the Players Ball.

Its not rocket science to figure that one out.

D$ Money look forward to more doors openning for your events now I am sure its only a matter of time.
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Jen has a lot of experience and always did an outstanding job leveraging avn for XPays. Her future is bright and we wish her the best in all her future endeavors!

The Players Ball is more about the webmasters who make the party special and less about the association with any particular tradeshow and I am sure that D$ will grow it out to its potential. Best of luck to both of you and I know this is a difficult time.

I pray Jen might even jump on the XThreadz ship and help it grow like she has done for others in the past. Competition for Jen's employment will be fierce I bit, given all her contacts she has made over the last decade.
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a pimps gotta do what a pimps gotta do.......but im rollin with you d-mizzle
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so, with all the conventions springin up all over the place, and now the players ball will be something else, i guess im going to kiss my girl goodbye and live in a van driving from convention to convention to the playersball to convention repeat.
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We all know that one of the main reasons the 2 largest conference shows were the largest was because of the Players Ball.

Its not rocket science to figure that one out.

D$ Money look forward to more doors openning for your events now I am sure its only a matter of time.
Thanks for the kind words.

I've had lot's of people tell me they came to the trade shows for the Ball, lot's showing up the last day when I threw the party.

I do appreciate all of the support and memories from those trade shows and parties. The webmasters always made the party what it was. It will continue and grow to new heights in more ways in conjunction with more events and or on it's own.
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D I know how you feel.. I have had the same feeling about AVN for a long time

I know all will work out well !
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so, with all the conventions springin up all over the place, and now the players ball will be something else, i guess im going to kiss my girl goodbye and live in a van driving from convention to convention to the playersball to convention repeat.
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The loss of the players ball certainly reduces the appeal of internext. But Im sure the ball can thrive without it.
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so, with all the conventions springin up all over the place, and now the players ball will be something else, i guess im going to kiss my girl goodbye and live in a van driving from convention to convention to the playersball to convention repeat.
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Part of me feels bad about all this, but the other part truly believes that eveything happens for a reason.

I think its about time the Players Ball steps up to a new level. Do some of the other adult conventions and get into other markets. There is so much potential for the Players Ball to be a powerhouse party both adult and mainstream events.

As for the gifted Jen, from the years I've been in this biz, everything tells me that you are AVN. When most people think of AVN and how it got to where its at, they think of you. I sure do.

Well, best of luck to both of you.

Guess I should cancel my trip to Florida now.
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Hey Darren...I am sorry to hear about this but I fully understand your reasons and I support it.

I will be in LA soon and would love to sit down and hear about the circumstances you mentioned. I have been considering advertising with AVN upon launch of my affiliate program but this could very well change that.

See you soon.
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Sorry to ear that, Jennifer is a GEM and I am sure everyone that was dealing with her will miss her. Please give her my best bro.

Now let's do a Players Ball in Vancouver this summer on a cruise ship to Alaska ;-)
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Even though I never met Jen or D$, I have always heard great things about both of them. Good luck to Jen wherever she winds up.

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AVN sucks ass anyways D$


I refuse to ever have a booth as
long as they continue to run a shitty operation.

Venetian is a shitty hotel to say the least..

Boycott AVN... I do
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Venetian is a shitty hotel to say the least..

Boycott AVN... I do
boycott avn i like that, shut their fucking shows down
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I refuse to ever have a booth as
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Venetian is a shitty hotel to say the least..

Boycott AVN... I do

For some reason, I find it humorous that a guy who owns his own program is bashing on AVN for not running something correctly when his sig that advertises his own shit is all sorts of fucked up.

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For some reason, I find it humorous that a guy who owns his own program is bashing on AVN for not running something correctly when his sig that advertises his own shit is all sorts of fucked up.

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You don't think I know this already :-)
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I have a really dumb question, so I'll pre-apologize for asking.

What's the difference between avnonline and avn.com? Are they one in the same? Different versions of the same thing?

I've been reading all the HIV hoopla at avn.com but I wasn't sure what the similarities/differences are in the two.
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Yo D!

We've ALL been there for each other through good and bad times over the years!

You KNOW ... especially after last Friday that you have my love, respect, and friendship for life!

I've known Jen for most of my adult life (before any of this internet shit), and she's ALWAYS been FAMILY to me! You tell her that I love her, and I'll always be here to talk if she ever needs anything!

Regardless of the politics ... there is a silver lining in this cloud - and it will become apparent once the dust settles.

One door closes and another door opens ... it's the cycle of life!

See you guys at our baby shower on Saturday!
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Damn Aaron.. your one smart dude.

You don't think I know this already :-)
Yet you seem to think that AVN is not already aware of their mistakes.

Hyprocrisy at it's finest!
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Hey D Money its andy chandler callme or icq me ill pick up the players ball in my town florida call me 561 347 1152
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you know what D-money - the players ball at internext was out of controll - it's wasn't about industry players anymore - the few days i spent in Vegas before the players ball tons of locals were talking about it and how they crashed it.

The smaller shows are where it's at - it's where the REAL players show up these days - and taking the players ball on the road and getting associated with the smaller shows that have a MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE of REAL players that attend will be a GOOD MOVE and one I'm behind 100%


sorry to hear about what happened to your wife
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Due to the unfortunate firing of my wife, Jennifer ( JenAVN) yesterday and the circumstances involving it, I feel I can no longer go on supporting AVN's internet events at this time.
As many of you know, Jen had been with AVN for 9 years and while she is hardly credited for most of her accomplishments while working there- she was instrumental in their growth and it's development of AVN ONLINE.

I feel like there's been a death in my household to say the least.

I apologize to all the webmasters who were planning on coming to FLA just to attend the Player's Ball. I appreciate your support over the years and look very much forward to taking the Player's Ball's to new heights- and of course I still want to see as many webmasters at my parties as possible.

For those of you coming to San Diego June 10th for the Cybernet Expo Players Ball to see Eek-A-Mouse at Canes, we still look forward to seeing you party with us in full force.

This does not mean this is the end of the Players Balls. This is just a new beginning for the Players Ball. Look for the rebirth and annoucements in the near future.

For those that aren't aware of the history of the Players Ball, we've had a streak of 11 Players Ball's catering to Internext dating back to IA2000, never missing one show.
Darren,

Please have Jennifer contact me or send me her contact information.
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That sucks, AVN seems to be making a lot of mistakes recently?

We called for advertising the other day and was ready to spend some money on a 1-2 full page ad. But AVN could not accomodate our request....

Oh well, our money can be spent elsewhere on other advertising.

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Hey D Money its andy chandler callme or icq me ill pick up the players ball in my town florida call me 561 347 1152

Holy shit, Andy "Old School" Chandler!

I'm calling you tomorrow player, KB says what's up, he's next to me. He misses your limo and everything that came with it.

For those that don't know Andy, he's a player 4 life.

Love the posts in this thread and the feedback.
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Old 05-19-2004, 08:48 PM   #47
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That's a shame.

One of my very first, and still best experiences at a trade show involved Humpty from Digital Underground, blackjack table and 6 in the morning. First time I met D-money and crew and the whole thing was off the hook.

Just makes internext that much LESS desirable to go to now.
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you know what D-money - the players ball at internext was out of controll - it's wasn't about industry players anymore - the few days i spent in Vegas before the players ball tons of locals were talking about it and how they crashed it.

The smaller shows are where it's at - it's where the REAL players show up these days - and taking the players ball on the road and getting associated with the smaller shows that have a MUCH HIGHER PERCENTAGE of REAL players that attend will be a GOOD MOVE and one I'm behind 100%


sorry to hear about what happened to your wife
It's definitely one of the directions I've been headed with doing the Cybernet Expo. We have a brand amongst webmasters and mainstream that needs to be explored further. I'm excited to see what the Ball will evolve into, I'll be putting more work into them then ever.

I personally enjoy the smaller Players Balls in smaller venues. It's more intimate for webmasters, easier to network and do business while partying.

My problem is I still want to do Snoop Dogg or 50 Cent for my big Ball next year, it's hard to raise that kind of money these days. However, I still promise I will find a way to make that happen again, in a small setting. Where there's a will, there's a way. No doubt I have the will. Maybe Andy can help make that happen. I've personally put a deal together once that was much larger, with Andy, he remembers that.
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Old 05-19-2004, 09:04 PM   #49
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Jen is a real loss to AVN.... to most webmasters - Jen WAS AVNOnline, front & center.

So Jen, who is going to haul up those magazines? :-)
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Old 05-19-2004, 09:41 PM   #50
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no sweat d - i have no reason to go to internext anymore.

you do a great job and are always extra accomodating. evolution is inevitable and it will move to bigger and better things.
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