Complete TGP Guide: Beginner to Intermediate

[zzgundamnzz]

Intermediate Guide to Building a Thumb TGP:

(A. Getting Started)
1. Buy yourself a domain. Buy one that has something to do with Porn and play with the words. Do not register with Go Daddy or other cheap places! Register with the big

companies. They charge more but you won't get fucked over.

http://www.Directnic.com (Recommended)

2. Get yourself a Server
- (Do not try to do the stuff in this tutorial with a virtual account hosting account)

What you have to remember is you're not running a game server... So don't go with the extremely fast servers. But if you can afford it by all means.

- Do not get a (Windows Server). Make sure you get a Unix based O/S.

Places to get a server:
http://www.servermatrix.com
http://www.webair.com
http://www.realitychecknetwork.com
http://www.jupiterhosting.com
http://www.candidhosting.com
http://www.isprime.com

(B. Getting Your Tools)

Thumbnail Manager:
1. You're going to need a thumbnail/gallery manager to do all the grunt work.

http://www.comusthumbs.com

This is the ultimate tool for managing thumbs and increasing productivity. Make sure you either purchase this or get the 2% Skim version. This is a must have tool.

I'll give you tips on setting up your layout later on.

Trade Script:
2. You're going to need a Trade Script to manage trading with other sites. Make sure you get one that is suitable for a high traffic site. Make sure they're coded in C.

Premium Scripts:
TM3 - http://www.tgpsoftware.com
Arrow Trader Extreme - http://www.arrowscripts.com/
UCJ - http://www.ucj.com/

Free Script(they take some of your traffic)
Arrow Trader - http://www.arrowscripts.com
AWG Trade - http://www.awgtrade.com/ (Zero Traffic Taken)

(C. Building Your Page)

You should now have all of the necessary tools and hardware to build your TGP. But your still missing your main page.

- Build one Yourself
Customize your page:
- brand it
-make yourself your own mascott
-make it unique and clean

- Have one built for you or buy a Template

http://www.dynamixxx.com (They'll build you a custom TGP page for $55)
http://www.sexzity.com/templates.html (Sexzity has premade templates starting at $15)
http://www.galleryguy.com/

(D. Comus Thumbs Template)
To get the full Productivity template grab it on the Comus Thumbs Forum

This is similar to what I personally use:

First Table(Skim 65):
1st Row: 8 Thumbs(Query Best with No Clicks Option)
(Why the no clicks option? You want your thumbs to rotate and don't want the top thumbs to dominate just because of placing.)
2nd Row: 8 Thumbs(Query Best with No Clicks Option)
3rd Row: 8 Thumbs(Query Best with Clicks Option On)
4th Row: Thumb 1 Query New) Thumbs 2-8 Query Stage 1 (What does this do? It injects a thumb every time your page is rebuilt. Set your rebuild to 5 minutes ~12 Thumbs per

hour)

Now make two or three more tables all using (Query Best).
Remember for each table that you make lower the percentage that go to galleries upto 50%

1st Table 65%

2nd Table 60%

3rd Table 55%


(E. Populating your Page with Content)

Things you should have ready:
- Main Page Design(Filled with Macros)
- Trade Script
- Comus Thumbs

1. Filling it with galleries.

Your page will be rebuilt every 5 minutes using 12 Thumbs per hour, Using 288 Thumbs per day.
You're going to need a bunch of sponsors with alot of galleries to fill this quota:

A. Signup with These Sponsors
Recommended Sponsors:
Brain Cash (1000+ Hosted Galleries)
Medium Pimpin (1000+ Hosted Galleries)
Nasty Dollars (1000+ Hosted Galleries)
NS Cash (1000+ Hosted Galleries)
Extreme Paychecks (1000+ Hosted Galleries)

If you signed up to all of these sponsors you should have 8000+ Galleries to place in your database.

In Comus Thumbs
- Make sure you enable hotlinking and 302 redirects
- Bulk Import all of the galleries from these Sponsors into your Comus database. (Avoid Movie Galleries: They'll leave you with a cutoff watermark)
- Auto Thumb Every Single on of them with the Auto Thumber with the skin setting turned on
- Now before transfering all of them into your main category: Examine them in blocks of 200 for quality.

Congrats the Easy Part is over

Part II.

So now you have a kickass site with kickass software thats fully setup but your not making any money cause you got no visitors...

A. Buy Traffic

Buy 100-200 K of traffic to build up fast.

Places to buy cheap productive traffic from honest people:
FPC Traffic(Buy Exit Traffic 100K or 250K for 1.75K)
Sexzity(Buy Unfiltered 50K or 100K)

B. Using the Traffic

- Divide the amount of traffic that you bought by 5. This will give time just in case something isn't setup right or for unforseen complications.
- Signup to Trade with Other Thumb TGP Sites:
http://www.findtrades.com

- Force 30-50 Per hour depending on the size of the trade for 24 hours to your trades(set value for each trade).
After 24 hours turn the force off and let your script handle it.

- Keep the trades that are productive dump the ones that aren't.

- Keep adding trades.

- Make sure you pick niches that correspond to your site.

- Do not trade with sites that have a skim lower than 60% (trading with sites that jerk around their surfers give you lower prod % traffic and will hurt you in the long run)

- You might want add more adds to your site but other than that...

You're finished.

Got questions I'll answer them for you in this thread

[DutchAdultDesigner]

Do you have a template for the Comus settings you discribe

[ps']

so how much do u earned monthly in your TGP site?

what is your TGP site url?

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by DutchAdultDesigner
Do you have a template for the Comus settings you discribe

The moment I post it here I'll see a bunch of people using the exact template.

Inside of the Comus admin area you can get a bunch of template examples in the help section.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by ps'
so how much do u earned monthly in your TGP site?

what is your TGP site url?

http://www.zzgalleries.com

About 2-2.3K a month...

[pood]

is this tgp based on no submissions? just plain FHGs?


comus can do that?

i was thinking of getting adult devil's bs-tgp

im gonna add in about 30k galleries


sorry for this noob questions, but whats skim?

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by pood
is this tgp based on no submissions? just plain FHGs?


comus can do that?

i was thinking of getting adult devil's bs-tgp

im gonna add in about 30k galleries


sorry for this noob questions, but whats skim?

Yeah Comus can do that... just turn off submissions in the Settings and Enable Productivity Boost

Enable 302s and Hotlinking inside of the FHGs and you should be able to import most of them with no trouble.

Skimming:

If your percentage is at 70% : 70% goes to galleries and 30% goes to trades.

[zzgundamnzz]

About the skim in software:

When programs like tradescripts and thumbmanagers say they'll skim 2% from you...

It means they take 2% of all clicks from your website.

[pood]

thanks, great guide btw, I'm gonna put it to good use

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by pood
thanks, great guide btw, I'm gonna put it to good use

Im just glad somebody out there could put it to good use

[Herb Kornfield]

Thanks for the info man, you rock!, I'll definately be studying this

[imafuckingaussie]

zz

I've been messing with thumbs remote, is it ok to use this, or you reckon u need to go with comus?

cheers, nice post man.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by imafuckingaussie
zz

I've been messing with thumbs remote, is it ok to use this, or you reckon u need to go with comus?

cheers, nice post man.

I think you should use Comus Thumbs. You need something to manage and boost the productivity of your thumb page...

Without something like that it'll be alot harder to grow. If your not sure wether you want to buy it... you can always try the trial version.

[imafuckingaussie]

Cool, I will go with comus then man.

What traffic is your tgp doing for that income? and what size generally does it have to get to start making some money? 10k, 20k, 100k?

cheers dude

[imafuckingaussie]

Woops, I wasnt allowed to edit the message, and I had another couple q's:

I see you have no ads there except the hosted gals and top links, is this usual? You make your money off the galleries yeh?

One more thing, I think you said this above, but to be sure, your tgp is no submission? So your traffic is from buying and trading traffic only? Do you get much se traffic?

thanks again

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by imafuckingaussie
Woops, I wasnt allowed to edit the message, and I had another couple q's:

I see you have no ads there except the hosted gals and top links, is this usual? You make your money off the galleries yeh?

One more thing, I think you said this above, but to be sure, your tgp is no submission? So your traffic is from buying and trading traffic only? Do you get much se traffic?

thanks again

My site was at 30K and had a few custom ads at the top. I got another guide going on this board explaining how I had my top ads arranged.

The one you see right now is a new design and so far I haven't modified it too much. Still in the transition of moving servers.

Yeah, I get a decent amount of Search Engine traffic. Trading with the bigger sites and having them link to your domain helps out alot.

Its possible to make more money with 20K than 50K of traffic. By trading with quality sites and keeping the skim at a low rate you can have better quality traffic. Better quality means better conversions...

Most people these days are only focused on getting a big site and don't look at the thing that counts which is the green at the end of the month...

[imafuckingaussie]

So why change to no ads man? Is that to increase traffic?
Could you give me the url to your ads tutorial?
And finally, how long did it take u to get where you are?
thanks

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by imafuckingaussie
So why change to no ads man? Is that to increase traffic?
Could you give me the url to your ads tutorial?
And finally, how long did it take u to get where you are?
thanks

It took me two years... I went from being a small movie site, MGP, to a thumbnail TGP.

Thing is most people today can hit 30K+ by buying traffic and using programs like Comus.

Heres the URL:
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=316395

[zzgundamnzz]

bump

[bruce_lee]

gundamn, have you ever brought rotating banner spots on PK? If so, could you make profit from it?

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by bruce_lee
gundamn, have you ever brought rotating banner spots on PK? If so, could you make profit from it?

I've never bought spots from PK...

But I've been listed there a few times and she has quality traffic

[zzgundamnzz]

bump

[junkedBrian]

hey could you hit me up on icq or aim? i have a few questions for you

47630498 :: icq
brian rides :: aim


cheers.

[the_wizz]

Ok, I've been using aptgp for a while now, and I like some of the features in it. I read this post, and I was curious, so I figured why not, I have a domain that isn't doing anything.....

Comus is interesting to say the least. There are some issues with it, and a bunch of suggestions I'm going to be making though.... (Like a built in banner system)

[pood]

i just noticed that comus had a trial verision where they skim 2%

you can use that as long as you want right?

do you think using the trial of comus is better opposed to remote thumbs?

they take away 5% of all your gallery clicks, so isnt that basically a 5% skim opposed to only 2%?

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by pood
i just noticed that comus had a trial verision where they skim 2%

you can use that as long as you want right?

do you think using the trial of comus is better opposed to remote thumbs?

they take away 5% of all your gallery clicks, so isnt that basically a 5% skim opposed to only 2%?

Comus is better because it has alot more features and its strong points involve making your site as productive as possible.

It takes 2%... you can even see how much it takes in the totals.

[teleblade69]

bump for a good tutorial






tb

[the_wizz]

I've kind of merged aptgp and comus together.

Comus is creating a table of their most popular thumbs and the aptgp script creates the main page which calls the comus page via ssi.

http://smutfinder.net

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by the_wizz
I've kind of merged aptgp and comus together.

Comus is creating a table of their most popular thumbs and the aptgp script creates the main page which calls the comus page via ssi.

http://smutfinder.net

Just wondering... why would you merge the two together?

[cambaby]

Any other recommendations on buying traffic - I normally go with Choker but he is not selling TGP traffic at this time.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by cambaby
Any other recommendations on buying traffic - I normally go with Choker but he is not selling TGP traffic at this time.

Normally I would only go with choker for PPC.

His traffics to valuable to be used as feeder traffic.

[blazin]

This is a great tutorial zzgundamnzz

[lorenzoc]

Hi zzgundamnzz, I would need to talk to you personally asap, please contact me via icq 162116523, I have to ask you something.

[zzgundamnzz]

If anybody else has questions:

Please post your questions in this thread...

Im getting too many ICQ messages asking the same thing.

[Tuga]

Great tutorial, but I dont know if we need more TGPs

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by Tuga
Great tutorial, but I dont know if we need more TGPs

Well I did leave some key information out of my tutorial...

The people who aren't serious about running their own TGP will probably fail.

The people who are serious will find it alot easier by reading the tutorial.

[zdwebber]

bump for ya ;)
I'm still waiting for a simple traffic trading tutorial ;)

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by zdwebber
bump for ya ;)
I'm still waiting for a simple traffic trading tutorial ;)

Thanks, for the bump

A trade tutorial... now thats alot of work.

[zzgundamnzz]

A bump for the morning crew

[cool1g]

what kind of bandwidth would a 50K or 100K thumb TGP go through?

i already have a virtual accout at ISPrime that goes up to 100 gigs per month - would I blow through that?

thanks!

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by cool1g
what kind of bandwidth would a 50K or 100K thumb TGP go through?

i already have a virtual accout at ISPrime that goes up to 100 gigs per month - would I blow through that?

thanks!

Lets say your page is 500K in size(could be alot more or less depending on number, size, quality of thumbs) per visitor.

Per Day:

500K 1 Visitor

5 MB 10 Visitors

50 MB 100 Visitors

500 MB 1000 Visitors

5 Gigs 10,000 Visitors

50 Gigs 100,000 Visitors

[infecto]

I think I am going to open a tgp and make millions!!! ;)

[cool1g]

ZZ - thanks for the reply....i have a follow up - aren't the thumbs on the website typically hosted by the submitter or the paysite if using a FHG?

so the 500K estimate would just be based on banners and graphics loading on the page, right?

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by cool1g
ZZ - thanks for the reply....i have a follow up - aren't the thumbs on the website typically hosted by the submitter or the paysite if using a FHG?

so the 500K estimate would just be based on banners and graphics loading on the page, right?

500K would be an estimate of the banners, graphics, html, and thumbs of your site.

You host the thumbs. The submitter, sponsor is hosting the galleries.

[teleblade69]

the last part is getting the trades started.


Can you give some info how to choose the trades


like wait 10 hours and at what % of production do you have to keep them and...


thx


tb

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by teleblade69
the last part is getting the trades started.


Can you give some info how to choose the trades


like wait 10 hours and at what % of production do you have to keep them and...


thx


tb

I would say wait 24 hours atleast...

If a trade doesn't produce to atleast 100% dump them. If your using Comus and have good site design productivity should be above 100%.

[teleblade69]

i tried buying 40k tgp traffic but it didn't worked for me now i'm trying it with choker traffic 20 college hits/hour to my site.


Hope de quality is working instead of the quantity .



Is it worth trying ZZ?



tb

[cambaby]

Here is a tip if you want to save bandwidth, use GZip compression if you can, it will cut the bandwidth nearly 50% in some cases it also makes for faster viewing of a page. You could start your TGP on a 100gig account pretty easily for sure, plan for growth and realize that the 100gig will not get it at some point. Well thats what we hope anyways. Gzip Gzip Gzip.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by teleblade69
i tried buying 40k tgp traffic but it didn't worked for me now i'm trying it with choker traffic 20 college hits/hour to my site.


Hope de quality is working instead of the quantity .



Is it worth trying ZZ?



tb

Might be worth it.

You won't grow big... but you might establish some very good trades by trading quality traffic.

[sean416]

I dont mean to be an asshole, but I thought I'd offer my opinion on some of these matters.

If you're just starting out, heres a way to start a TGP with $50 instead of $5000.

1. Get a domain name at godaddy.com, yes their TOS (terms of service) makes you a hoe to their pimpin back hand, but for the most part you're safe. especially when you're just starting out.

2. use a virtual host. use a hosting company like webair.com and they'll allow you to upgrade as neccessary.

3. Do a text link TGP rather then a Thumb TGP. It will save you bandwidth, it will save you from buying programs, and hey, they're still awesome.

4. download http://www.scriptarchive.com/rand_link.html and use this for all of the links to your galleries. This is a random link generator.. meaning each time somebody clicks on the link a new gallery will appear. You can also divide it into categories like babe, teen, fetish, etc.

5. sign up for as many sponsors as you can with free hosted galleries. and also put your link trades into the database to force traffic to the sites your trading with.

6. put a couple banners on your site to either sites you want to promote, products, whatever you think will bring in the dough!

7. Now your new $50 TGP is pretty much self maintenenced. So with your extra time start building your own galleries with 3 reciporal links with of course one of those links being yours. Just another way to get some more traffic.

The reason I say this, is a lot of people want to get into the adult biz, pour out thousands of dollars and give up shortly there after. This way you wont have spent all that money for nothing should you decide this isnt for you.

One last thing I wanted to say, this isnt to diss anyone, but dont think anyone is doing anything for free here. All of the links to the sponsors all have zzgundamnzz referral codes in them, meaning, he will be making money off of every dime you make. Now im not saying his credibility is shot, heck, the least he deserves for providing you with a tutorial on how to make thousands of dollars a month is a finders fee. All I mean to say is make sure you research what you're getting into before you blow all your money on it, what was said in this post is just one mans opinoin and not a guaranteed recipe to make money. If you know anything about our economy you should know the fallacy of composition. What's good for one person is NOT neccessarily good for all.

Best of luck!