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Old 05-26-2005, 07:20 AM   #1
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2257 and sites like adultfriendfinder? they are toast!

how are places that take surfer submission pics gonna comply with 2257? It's pretty impossible. Shit, just having the non "PG" AFF geo banner on your site makes your site non compliant.

is the sky falling?
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:27 AM   #2
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Nope, the sky isn't falling.
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:28 AM   #3
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I guess that depends on how the interpretation of "sexually explicit" falls.... but I don't think it would be much, or even harmful to AFF in any way to change all their ads to be "PG"
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:30 AM   #4
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:36 AM   #5
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maybe you ask a real honest to goodness 2257 lawyer before making comments like that

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Old 05-26-2005, 07:45 AM   #6
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i would suspect those free voyeur sites are going to be in trouble if they are us based
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:56 AM   #7
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They'll find a solution if they haven't already. It will be part of teh member review process I'm sure.
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Old 05-26-2005, 07:58 AM   #8
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yes AFF is shutting down in 47 days, GFY is full of nothing but clueless, brain dead idiots. Why OH Why
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:00 AM   #9
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I guess that depends on how the interpretation of "sexually explicit" falls.... but I don't think it would be much, or even harmful to AFF in any way to change all their ads to be "PG"
changing ads to PG?
how about filtering all of the content to PG?
then the conversions - signups will drop
I'm 150% sure that they are working on solutions for this.
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The will rely on the usenet type definiation I believe.
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:01 AM   #11
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yes AFF is shutting down in 47 days, GFY is full of nothing but clueless, brain dead idiots. Why OH Why
Regardless of them having to shut down they have an assload of work in front of them. Do you even realize the time involved to check every pic in every profile for explicit shit on an ONGOING basis. Or am I wrong to think that once you are approved you can upload more pics at will.

Maybe they are a "service provider"?
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:02 AM   #12
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The will rely on the usenet type definiation I believe.
If you are talking about them being exempt then this would still require everyone posting their own pics to keep up with documents right? Not only that, AFF personally approves pics so that defense might not work for them.
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A major program like that has the resources to find and implement a solution im sure.
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:05 AM   #14
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A major program like that has the resources to find and implement a solution im sure.
You think ANYBODY has the resources to make millions of members send in legal documents within a month?
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You think ANYBODY has the resources to make millions of members send in legal documents within a month?
yes they just started worrying about this
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:09 AM   #16
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yes they just started worrying about this
Ahahaha so you think they've already been getting the required documents or letting their members know that if they post explicit pics they could be arrested? You are fooling yourself like nobody I've ever seen on this board.

I can go start a profile today and upload anything I want after it is approved. Even if they started screening now they would still have months of work in front of them with a dedicated team to clear out all the old stuff.
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:13 AM   #17
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how about sites like mallcom stores? where none of the box images are hosted at your site, yet display on your domain? that would make you a secondary producer would it not, havent seen it discussed yet but was curious.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:44 AM   #18
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I dunno, but all the surfer submit type of sites like AFF and rating sites are gonna have to do something.

if there is any type of review process I don't think a usenet definition would be a defense if I remember what my lawyer said last time 2257 came up and I was running a surfer submission site.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:52 AM   #19
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You people are insane. Have a nice day. AFF is not going to shut down over 2257, nor will they have to keep track of thousands and thousands of records regarding 2257 for every single picture of a half nude chick on the site.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:54 AM   #20
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You think ANYBODY has the resources to make millions of members send in legal documents within a month?

true, if it takes a human to moderate and make a judgment call on each image submitted it will be a huge workload---you can't build a script for that.
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Or am I wrong to think that once you are approved you can upload more pics at will.

Maybe they are a "service provider"?
AFF has to approve every pic before they put it up
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Old 05-26-2005, 12:03 PM   #22
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Maybe just maybe the vast majority of the pics are not sexually explicit by deffinition.
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I have a project that I am working on now....models are submitting me content.
I first had them sign and fax or mail a release and send me thier IDS.
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On Adult Friend Finder and Alt.. Tons of pics are explicit to the core lol

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Old 05-26-2005, 12:10 PM   #25
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What is this? Sounds like way too huge a loophole.

I'd like to hear AFFs solution.

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I guess that depends on how the interpretation of "sexually explicit" falls.... but I don't think it would be much, or even harmful to AFF in any way to change all their ads to be "PG"

If a chick is spreading her pussy . . . . sexually explicit
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Maybe just maybe the vast majority of the pics are not sexually explicit by deffinition.

Most aren't . . . . just makes it tougher to find the ones that are.
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