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Old 06-23-2005, 10:57 AM   #1
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Here is the deal the FSC has agreed to

Under the deal, the government will not enforce the new 2257 regulations until the FSC's lawsuit challenging them is resolved.

Thats essentially it, and that is a reasonable deal.

While technically this would only apply to FSC members, realistically it will apply to everyone.
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Old 06-23-2005, 10:57 AM   #2
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did they announce this?
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Please note that this is not final until the judge agrees to it, but he will.
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So essentially they got the injunction from the DOJ instead of the court? Sounds like the DOJ is dealing from a position of weakness.
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where is the official statement?
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where did you get that from? Linkage?
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I got it from an inside source who would know. I believe it
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I got it from an inside source who would know. I believe it
well if that's the deal, that still means people need to be compliant as of Midnight this morning. if it goes to court and FSC loses it's suit, they can go after anyone who wasn't compliant on June 23rd.
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So its official now..

Good news for now.. Real good news.

But I seriously wonder where we stand here in the long run after this battle.
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well if that's the deal, that still means people need to be compliant as of Midnight this morning. if it goes to court and FSC loses it's suit, they can go after anyone who wasn't compliant on June 23rd.
Dont think so.
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Mike South is the "KB" of the video world...he knows everything, and knows everybody

he also calls bullshit where bullshit need to be called
I bet you liked reading the gossip sites yesterday Mikey!


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Just to support the cause, we should all be members of the FSC. Not that we would be blanketed under them, but because it's right to support the people fighting our battle.
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Dont think so.
how do you figure? if that's the deal, they are saying they will wait until the case is argued in court. if the FSC loses that case, are you saying the regs stating that June 23rd is the effective date will not be applicable?
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how do you figure? if that's the deal, they are saying they will wait until the case is argued in court. if the FSC loses that case, are you saying the regs stating that June 23rd is the effective date will not be applicable?
Because if it was an agreement approved by the court, and the DOJ later brings in evidence aquired before the expiration of the agreement, they'd get a boot on the ass from the judge maybe?

I dont know, I'm asking.
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Because if it was an agreement approved by the court, and the DOJ later brings in evidence aquired before the expiration of the agreement, they'd get a boot on the ass from the judge maybe?

I dont know, I'm asking.
the regulations went into effect at midnight this morning.

the fsc filed a lawsuit saying they are bullshit

apparently the DOJ agreed to not enforce the regulations until the lawsuit is dealt with in court

now, if the FSC coalition loses the suit - the regulations stand as of June 23rd 2005.

anyone who is not compliant TODAY and gambling on the result of the lawsuit has huge balls.
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Sounds good, but I predict this will only result in people putting off what should already be done, so that in the event the FSC fails in its lawsuit people will be wailing once again that they did not have enough time to become compliant.
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there will be a lot of legal posturing and this can be tied up for a while I suspect-

I also don't think it'll be retroactive and that the DOJ is going to go after people that weren't compliant by th 6/23/ date-

That's just paranoia
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there will be a lot of legal posturing and this can be tied up for a while I suspect-

I also don't think it'll be retroactive and that the DOJ is going to go after people that weren't compliant by th 6/23/ date-

That's just paranoia
i think it's ok to be paranoid when it comes to this regime...
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truth is compliance goes back to 1995 anyway
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at least the record keeping aspects do.....
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there will be a lot of legal posturing and this can be tied up for a while I suspect-

I also don't think it'll be retroactive and that the DOJ is going to go after people that weren't compliant by th 6/23/ date-

That's just paranoia
Yeah I dont think so either..

But the fact that they CAN if they want to should be enough for alarm.

Even Paranoia. Damn...

This is still good news nevertheless..
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i think it's ok to be paranoid when it comes to this regime...
It's not even being paranoid dopeman - you only have to take a look at their rap sheet to know you just can't trust em! :-)
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Now this "grace" time that we may call it.

Has it already been aggreed on by both sides, or is that still not finial.
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Good news, for now anyway. And as far as the Reliable Source, wisecrack made above?

Anybody who's been in this business long enough, would probably agree, that given the choice of listening to your attorney, or taking Mike South's Advice, Mike's opinion should be listened to very carefully. Even though Mike might not always be 100% correct, he's never been totally wrong.

Kudo's to Mike for the heads up.
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Thanks James but I have been wrong...but not too often ;)
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the regulations went into effect at midnight this morning.

the fsc filed a lawsuit saying they are bullshit

apparently the DOJ agreed to not enforce the regulations until the lawsuit is dealt with in court

now, if the FSC coalition loses the suit - the regulations stand as of June 23rd 2005.

anyone who is not compliant TODAY and gambling on the result of the lawsuit has huge balls.
Anyone that deleted 5000 galleries has huge balls to. At least with this one you can still get the ID's if the case was lost BEFORE they come to inspect you.
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the regulations went into effect at midnight this morning.

the fsc filed a lawsuit saying they are bullshit

apparently the DOJ agreed to not enforce the regulations until the lawsuit is dealt with in court

now, if the FSC coalition loses the suit - the regulations stand as of June 23rd 2005.

anyone who is not compliant TODAY and gambling on the result of the lawsuit has huge balls.
Not enforcing the regs now means the DOJ will not investigate anyone until the case is settled. Which means they can't use any info against you that was acquired during the agreement because they will have violated the agreement by investigating you. DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In thug language:
Aight, now you got drugs in yo crib dog and da judge will not grant a search warrant until next week(because you might be packin' much straps and ready to bust caps and there's a carnival next doe wid a buch a kids) but da fuckin pigs bust in tomorrow anyway and take you and yo stash to jail. So then da judge is like fuck that; you pigs violated the search warrant and he let your monkey ass go back to da crib and you aint gotta do no bid dog!
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I always knew GFY had smart people on it...that guy is bi-lingual
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Deleting 5000 galleries doesnt do anything for ya - you might as well leave them up - you still have to have the docs for 5 years after you take them down - so all these people taking down sites are wasting their time
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nah- I am thinking he is more from Cleveland or Detroit...
I speak dat same cracka ass language as well..
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Deleting 5000 galleries doesnt do anything for ya - you might as well leave them up - you still have to have the docs for 5 years after you take them down - so all these people taking down sites are wasting their time
Yeah and that's why I should keep snorting freeze dried placenta because it stays in my system for 5 years and when they finally make it illegal in 2 years...well they got me anyway.
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