Is RageCash's SleepAssault a rape site? - GoFuckYourself.com

Turboface · 08-16-2005, 01:59 AM

Do you think that RageCash's SleepAssault is a rape site?

I'm not sure myself, but it certainly seems like it could be considered one.

Jakke PNG · 08-16-2005, 02:00 AM

Fantasy is fantasy, no?

bhutocracy · 08-16-2005, 02:08 AM

i want to sleep assault TGF.

Slap Dot · 08-16-2005, 02:09 AM

Wow, now that I think about it.

kmanrox · 08-16-2005, 02:11 AM

looks like simulated rape to me.

kmanrox · 08-16-2005, 02:12 AM

someone presented this niche idea to me a couple of years ago and i told them it was rape and not to touch it... this is my opinion...

Jakke PNG · 08-16-2005, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy

i want to sleep assault TGF.

I'd just pretend to be sleeping.

Turboface · 08-16-2005, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedonistic

looks like simulated rape to me.

What's the difference between rape sites and simulated rape sites?

Theo · 08-16-2005, 02:17 AM

fantasy rape

kmanrox · 08-16-2005, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Turboface

What's the difference between rape sites and simulated rape sites?

one can be real rapes put online to sell... simulated can be content made to simulate rape pictures... the first is obviously illegal... the second i dont know the legalities on, but i can assure you it's not ethical and most hosts won't allow it...

this sleeping sex niche seems like simulated rape, candy coated and sexed up to not sound like rape...

this is my opinion..

dij · 08-16-2005, 02:37 AM

http://www.hypnotrick.com

same thing, isn't it?

Rui · 08-16-2005, 02:38 AM

fantasy rape IMHO....

Why · 08-16-2005, 02:41 AM

seems sketch to me.

the Shemp · 08-16-2005, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Turboface

What's the difference between rape sites and simulated rape sites?

.........simulated Rhohypnol

Love Sex · 08-16-2005, 03:38 AM

those were the most boring clips ever.

bigdog · 08-16-2005, 03:43 AM

why had a similar thread yesterday

PixeLs · 08-16-2005, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dij

http://www.hypnotrick.com

same thing, isn't it?

This one is definitely boring.

Nicky · 08-16-2005, 03:57 AM

I have no idea what it should be considered as, lets wait and see what the owners say.....

bigdog · 08-16-2005, 04:17 AM

this site has been around for a while and one ever bitched about it
http://www.sleepingtushy.com/main.html

CDSmith · 08-16-2005, 09:05 AM

The sleeping niche also includes the situation where a husband, while sleeping with his wife, sneak attacks her while she sleeps. Same with a boyfriend-girlfriend scenario... and how many of you have woken up at 5 am and thrown one into your woman while she sleeps? I know I have, and it's hardly rape. Fact is tons of women out there love to be woken up like this.

The rest of it is FANTASY, as in play-acted. There are plenty of acted-out scenes of forced sex on TV and in movies, I don't see anyone bitching about those though. Why? This site plays up to a fantasy some people have, and nothing more, so get over it.

Stop witch-hunting already.

gleem · 08-16-2005, 09:09 AM

might be illegal if the shit looked half real. Cmon' the shit looks so fake who would bother trying to prosecute it? I can't believe these fake reality sites still convert..

cherrylula · 08-16-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

.........simulated Rhohypnol

damn now I need a simulated affiliate program for that.

Pete-KT · 08-16-2005, 09:10 AM

What are the legalalities on it?

Rinaldo · 08-16-2005, 09:20 AM

We shot a site once "beatabitch" and we dropped it... this was 5 years ago mind you and it would have been incredibly ahead of the curve, we went to an attorney and said we'd see lawsuits up the ass for this one.

xclusive · 08-16-2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedonistic

looks like simulated rape to me.

I agree and it's pushing the limits for sure but it's obviously fake and for the record your sig rapes my eyes

xclusive · 08-16-2005, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rinaldo

We shot a site once "beatabitch" and we dropped it... this was 5 years ago mind you and it would have been incredibly ahead of the curve, we went to an attorney and said we'd see lawsuits up the ass for this one.

bring it out and see how it does now

OTerror · 08-16-2005, 09:23 AM

I saw a couple trailers doesn't look like rape

some guys have fantasys of having sex with a woman while she is sleeping..I think it may convert well

jimthefiend · 08-16-2005, 09:28 AM

My gf has woken up with a crusty lip on several occasions.

She has yet to file charges. So rape?

nahhhhh

StuartD · 08-16-2005, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

.........simulated Rhohypnol

I really miss hanging out with you man... you going to be in Vegas this year?

Peaches · 08-16-2005, 09:30 AM

If you don't like it, don't promote it. Pretty simple concept.

StuartD · 08-16-2005, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

If you don't like it, don't promote it. Pretty simple concept.

No drama in that... people are way to eager to get other's in trouble. They look for the bad in people rather than just go about their own business.

Sawblade2dahead · 08-16-2005, 09:38 AM

This day and age, who would want to fuck with anything even close to rape?

I wish them luck, but I hope they are prepared for some headaches

Jace · 08-16-2005, 09:40 AM

seems like a fantasy site to me...and visa approved it, and they are pretty crazy strict now...so, they must also agree that while it is borderline, it is also very much a fantasy and not close to being real

Monique Niccole · 08-16-2005, 09:41 AM

I get sleep assaulted almost every night.

the Shemp · 08-16-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

I really miss hanging out with you man... you going to be in Vegas this year?

i hope so, Stu.. i havent been anywhere in over 18 months

killerkay · 08-16-2005, 11:38 AM

seems like rape to me

BigRod · 08-16-2005, 11:41 AM

Rape ? I don't know about that...

NaughtyRob · 08-16-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

this site has been around for a while and one ever bitched about it
http://www.sleepingtushy.com/main.html

The girls dont get fucked on that site.

Cory W · 08-16-2005, 11:44 AM

Excluding the merits of this site, when does the "fantasy is fantasy" argument become an issue?

I find it an interesting defense with a lot of holes.

IMO, defend the site, but use a different defense

escorpio · 08-16-2005, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

damn now I need a simulated affiliate program for that.

Don't get pissed when they send you a simulated check.

Gay Porn Star · 10-01-2007, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dij

hypnotrick.com

same thing, isn't it?

This is unbelievable I've never seen something like this. what's wrong with this guys?

JP-pornshooter · 10-01-2007, 10:55 AM

i considered shooting this series for rage, never came to my mind it could be considered rape fantasy..now i am not too sure. if the scenes are shot in a way depicting a couple sleeping together and not some hooded guy coming thru the window, i guess it is pretty safe.
and btw, dont use fantasy as an argument..most illegal sex schemes cannot be shot, even as fantasy (mother daughter, sisters etc)

SykkBoy · 10-01-2007, 11:12 AM

Several years ago, I worked witha company that was producing sleeping girl videos...these are basic voyeur videos where the girl goes untouched but is being watched while sleeping...with various body parts sticking out, etc.

The company's attorney said that was fine as long as she wasn't touched or penetrated. Lifting covers was find, but beyond that, he felt it would cause more problems than it was worth and advised the company to avoid that sort of activity.

fuzebox · 10-01-2007, 11:14 AM

Why the lame bump?

From the warning page:

Sleep fucking or otherwise known as sleep fuck sex is one of the hottest fantasy sites around many husbands want to sleep fuck their wives and many wives love to be sleep fucked. Sleeping fantasy is very common. Lots of women have the fantasy to be made love to in their sleep. Sleep Assault is a site based on that fantasy. This site does not contain any forced sex or illegal acts.

Roald · 10-01-2007, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Several years ago, I worked witha company that was producing sleeping girl videos...these are basic voyeur videos where the girl goes untouched but is being watched while sleeping...with various body parts sticking out, etc.

The company's attorney said that was fine as long as she wasn't touched or penetrated. Lifting covers was find, but beyond that, he felt it would cause more problems than it was worth and advised the company to avoid that sort of activity.

but then again the site is still up after 2 years so (check thread date) I guess they didn't get any real problems sofar.

Extreme John · 10-01-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Turboface

Do you think that RageCash's SleepAssault is a rape site?

I'm not sure myself, but it certainly seems like it could be considered one.

Sleep Assault is a Fantasy site, nothing more. There are'nt hooded people climbing through windows and tieing chicks up and fucking them while they sleep. Every Sleep Assault scene is filmed either with the girl wide awake in the start of the shoot and in most cases talking to the guy in the scene with here, if that isnt the way the scene goes than the girl awake's either during it and enjoys it or at the end where it is clear she was not raped.

The same can also be asked about Sleep Sins, however not many people will question a site when a girl is doing it to a guy in HIS Sleep.

I will be the first to say, can Sleep Assault and Sleep Sins be considered a Risque Fantasy site? Yes without a doubt, can they be considered Rape sites? Not if you have seen the content, not at all.

Every webmaster has the right to promote and dislike whatever they choose, these 2 sites are'nt for everyone, however there are plenty of Affiliates that make a ton of money off of these 2 sites, the models that shoot for these sites constantly comment on how hot they thought the fantasy was, and our members love it as well. Feel free to hit me on Icq if you want to discuss it more in detail.

Extreme John · 10-01-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith

The sleeping niche also includes the situation where a husband, while sleeping with his wife, sneak attacks her while she sleeps. Same with a boyfriend-girlfriend scenario... and how many of you have woken up at 5 am and thrown one into your woman while she sleeps? I know I have, and it's hardly rape. Fact is tons of women out there love to be woken up like this.

The rest of it is FANTASY, as in play-acted. There are plenty of acted-out scenes of forced sex on TV and in movies, I don't see anyone bitching about those though. Why? This site plays up to a fantasy some people have, and nothing more, so get over it.

Stop witch-hunting already.

Perfectly said CD and thank you.

JD · 10-01-2007, 11:38 AM

since the girl most of the time is a girlfriend/wife/friend/etc and wakes up most of the time and enjoys it (from what I remember) I don't think it falls into the rape "niche" There's also no force from what it looks like...

HAPPYPEEKERS · 10-01-2007, 11:38 AM

I think it is just a fanatsy site..

Our Sleeping site.. Night Invasion... converts like fucking crazy so there are alot of people interested in the niche for sure.

HAPPYPEEKERS · 10-01-2007, 11:39 AM

I think it is just a fanatsy site..

Our Sleeping site.. Night Invasion... converts like fucking crazy so there are alot of people interested in the niche for sure.

08-16-2005, 01:59 AM	#1
Turboface Back in Black Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,976	Is RageCash's SleepAssault a rape site? Do you think that RageCash's SleepAssault is a rape site? I'm not sure myself, but it certainly seems like it could be considered one. __________________ Search Engine Optimization Services for Adult Sites

08-16-2005, 02:00 AM	#2
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,305	Fantasy is fantasy, no? __________________ ..and I'm off.

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08-16-2005, 02:11 AM	#5
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,272	looks like simulated rape to me. __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

08-16-2005, 02:12 AM	#6
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,272	someone presented this niche idea to me a couple of years ago and i told them it was rape and not to touch it... this is my opinion... __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

08-16-2005, 02:08 AM	#3
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,216	i want to sleep assault TGF.

08-16-2005, 02:17 AM	#9
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,524	fantasy rape

08-16-2005, 02:37 AM	#11
dij Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,163	http://www.hypnotrick.com same thing, isn't it?

08-16-2005, 02:38 AM	#12
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	fantasy rape IMHO....

08-16-2005, 02:41 AM	#13
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	seems sketch to me.

08-16-2005, 03:38 AM	#15
Love Sex Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,905	those were the most boring clips ever.

08-16-2005, 03:43 AM	#16
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	why had a similar thread yesterday

08-16-2005, 03:57 AM	#18
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,046	I have no idea what it should be considered as, lets wait and see what the owners say..... __________________ Hardlinks and blog posts available on a popular blog with DR 43 and over 3000 referring domains. gfynicky @ gmail.com

08-16-2005, 04:17 AM	#19
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	this site has been around for a while and one ever bitched about it http://www.sleepingtushy.com/main.html

08-16-2005, 09:05 AM	#20
CDSmith GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	The sleeping niche also includes the situation where a husband, while sleeping with his wife, sneak attacks her while she sleeps. Same with a boyfriend-girlfriend scenario... and how many of you have woken up at 5 am and thrown one into your woman while she sleeps? I know I have, and it's hardly rape. Fact is tons of women out there love to be woken up like this. The rest of it is FANTASY, as in play-acted. There are plenty of acted-out scenes of forced sex on TV and in movies, I don't see anyone bitching about those though. Why? This site plays up to a fantasy some people have, and nothing more, so get over it. Stop witch-hunting already. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

08-16-2005, 09:09 AM	#21
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	might be illegal if the shit looked half real. Cmon' the shit looks so fake who would bother trying to prosecute it? I can't believe these fake reality sites still convert.. __________________ Contact me: \\// E: webmaster /at/ unprofessional.com

08-16-2005, 09:10 AM	#23
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	What are the legalalities on it?

08-16-2005, 09:20 AM	#24
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	We shot a site once "beatabitch" and we dropped it... this was 5 years ago mind you and it would have been incredibly ahead of the curve, we went to an attorney and said we'd see lawsuits up the ass for this one.

08-16-2005, 09:23 AM	#27
OTerror Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 424142850 Posts: 2,527	I saw a couple trailers doesn't look like rape some guys have fantasys of having sex with a woman while she is sleeping..I think it may convert well __________________ ICQ 424142850

08-16-2005, 09:28 AM	#28
jimthefiend So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: icq: 121189 Posts: 18,889	My gf has woken up with a crusty lip on several occasions. She has yet to file charges. So rape? nahhhhh

08-16-2005, 09:30 AM	#30
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	If you don't like it, don't promote it. Pretty simple concept.

08-16-2005, 09:38 AM	#32
Sawblade2dahead Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lauderdale - Costa Rica Posts: 286	This day and age, who would want to fuck with anything even close to rape? I wish them luck, but I hope they are prepared for some headaches

08-16-2005, 09:40 AM	#33
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	seems like a fantasy site to me...and visa approved it, and they are pretty crazy strict now...so, they must also agree that while it is borderline, it is also very much a fantasy and not close to being real

08-16-2005, 09:41 AM	#34
Monique Niccole Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,653	I get sleep assaulted almost every night.

08-16-2005, 11:38 AM	#36
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08-16-2005, 11:41 AM	#37
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08-16-2005, 11:44 AM	#39
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Excluding the merits of this site, when does the "fantasy is fantasy" argument become an issue? I find it an interesting defense with a lot of holes. IMO, defend the site, but use a different defense __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

10-01-2007, 10:55 AM	#42
JP-pornshooter Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: westcoast usa Posts: 4,007	i considered shooting this series for rage, never came to my mind it could be considered rape fantasy..now i am not too sure. if the scenes are shot in a way depicting a couple sleeping together and not some hooded guy coming thru the window, i guess it is pretty safe. and btw, dont use fantasy as an argument..most illegal sex schemes cannot be shot, even as fantasy (mother daughter, sisters etc)

10-01-2007, 11:12 AM	#43
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	Several years ago, I worked witha company that was producing sleeping girl videos...these are basic voyeur videos where the girl goes untouched but is being watched while sleeping...with various body parts sticking out, etc. The company's attorney said that was fine as long as she wasn't touched or penetrated. Lifting covers was find, but beyond that, he felt it would cause more problems than it was worth and advised the company to avoid that sort of activity. __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

10-01-2007, 11:14 AM	#44
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 21,678	Why the lame bump? From the warning page: Sleep fucking or otherwise known as sleep fuck sex is one of the hottest fantasy sites around many husbands want to sleep fuck their wives and many wives love to be sleep fucked. Sleeping fantasy is very common. Lots of women have the fantasy to be made love to in their sleep. Sleep Assault is a site based on that fantasy. This site does not contain any forced sex or illegal acts.

10-01-2007, 11:38 AM	#48
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	since the girl most of the time is a girlfriend/wife/friend/etc and wakes up most of the time and enjoys it (from what I remember) I don't think it falls into the rape "niche" There's also no force from what it looks like...

10-01-2007, 11:38 AM	#49
HAPPYPEEKERS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 7,555	I think it is just a fanatsy site.. Our Sleeping site.. Night Invasion... converts like fucking crazy so there are alot of people interested in the niche for sure. __________________ Please Read All Of My Posts In A Sarcastic Tone So You Get The Full Effect!! HappyPeekers - April

10-01-2007, 11:39 AM	#50
HAPPYPEEKERS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 7,555	I think it is just a fanatsy site.. Our Sleeping site.. Night Invasion... converts like fucking crazy so there are alot of people interested in the niche for sure. __________________ Please Read All Of My Posts In A Sarcastic Tone So You Get The Full Effect!! HappyPeekers - April