Copying Text From Other Websites?

[infecto]

If someone is copying text from your website without permission is it possible to get them taken down by their host?

[Harmon]

probably not... unless it's copyrighted

[infecto]

Originally Posted by Harmon

probably not... unless it's copyrighted

I have a copyright info on the bottom of the page, does that count?

[bdld]

depends on the host, but most likely not unless you send them a C&D letter.

[Harmon]

It's a grey area - and I assume you are talking about porn - and who is to say who made what first? I'd say MOOT

[Tom_PM]

It's copyrighted material and covered by the DMA I'd say. Absolutely. Black and white to me.

[SuckOnThis]

Send their host this letter below. Had my Attorney write this up a few years ago and I have had to send it over a dozen times. Seems to get their attention.

Hostname:

It recently has come to our attention that a customer
of yours is violating Federal Copyright Laws and The Lanham Act by using (insert your text here) on their web site at
(insert your text here)

This web site has been traced to the IP
(insert your text here) which shows your company to be
the registered owner of that IP.

As you know, (insert your text here) owns and maintains the (insert your text here) Web site. (insert your text here) owns exclusive trademarks and copyrights to the (insert your text here) in the United States and internationally.

(insert your text here) has made a substantial investment in
developing and providing its services and has
acquired a tremendous amount of goodwill and brand
equity.

As we hope you can appreciate, (insert your text here) is
concerned that your customers unauthorized use of
the (insert your text here) may cause confusion as to
whether your customers activities are authorized,
endorsed or sponsored by (insert your text here) when, in
fact, they are not.

Federal and state laws, including the Lanham Act
provides a trademark holder to recover (1)
defendant's profits, (2) any damages sustained by
the plaintiff, and (3) the costs of the action.
The court shall assess such profits and damages or
cause the same to be assessed under its direction.
Infringers who have been notified of such infringing
activity, but do not cease their infringements, may
also be considered "willful" and could be
subject to additional money damages.

Having received this e-mail, you are on such notice.

More information on trademark law may be found at
http://www.fplc.edu/tfield/aVoid.htm.

Nonetheless, under the circumstances, we must
insist that you:
(1) force your customer to stop using (insert your text here) in their website;
(2) do not use such name on an active web site;

If you choose to ignore your violation legal action will
be filed.

Please confirm (by responding to this email) that you
will comply as requested above. Thank you for your
anticipated cooperation.

(insert your text here) Legal Department

[Harmon]

Ok - I see differing opinions. What are we talking about here? Care to show us an example? Or is this secret squirrel shit

[Tom_PM]

If it's simply SIMILAR, then thats another story. If it's exact code, then it's yours.

[infecto]

Copying exact text from my site word for word. Not actual code for the website but text displayed.

[Ice]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Ok - I see differing opinions. What are we talking about here? Care to show us an example? Or is this secret squirrel shit

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by infecto

Copying exact text from my site word for word. Not actual code for the website but text displayed.

I am guessing you do not want to cause drama by posting the examples? I understand if that is the case...

But what is the text copied?

16 blojob pics?
ENTER HERE!
SEE FREE TRAILERS BY CLICKING HERE

???

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Harmon

probably not... unless it's copyrighted

Anything someone writes is automatically copyrighted. Proving who came up with it first is another issue.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Ice

[infecto]

Originally Posted by Harmon

I am guessing you do not want to cause drama by posting the examples? I understand if that is the case...

But what is the text copied?

16 blojob pics?
ENTER HERE!
SEE FREE TRAILERS BY CLICKING HERE

???

Oh heck no. More like 4-5 sentences with extra links etc. Multiple posts like that.

Suckonthis thanks for that example letter by the way.

[SmokeyTheBear]

i think he is talking about "exact code"

I have noticed several "seo" sites that have created sites that pull the contents of almost every page out there.. they even copy my copyright notice LOL.

Basically how it works is , if you rank high for a keyword like BLACK PORN this guy creates a bot that crawls the first 20 sites listed on google and copies portions of the "text" and combines them to form a page seo'd for "black porn" ..

it doesnt seem to work very well..

Ill try to show an example for everyone.. to test if your being "scraped" just look for a unique text on your page like COPYRIGHT MYSITE.COM ont he bottom , but it in quotes and search it on google. see if any other sites have your text

[infecto]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i think he is talking about "exact code"

I have noticed several "seo" sites that have created sites that pull the contents of almost every page out there.. they even copy my copyright notice LOL.

Basically how it works is , if you rank high for a keyword like BLACK PORN this guy creates a bot that crawls the first 20 sites listed on google and copies portions of the "text" and combines them to form a page seo'd for "black porn" ..

it doesnt seem to work very well..

Ill try to show an example for everyone.. to test if your being "scraped" just look for a unique text on your page like COPYRIGHT MYSITE.COM ont he bottom , but it in quotes and search it on google. see if any other sites have your text

Yeah he is doing something along those lines. Only downside for him is he left his site open for hotlinking.

[SmokeyTheBear]

This is just plain search engine scraping..

http://porn-sex-videos.sweetsluts.info/ ( see bottom )

but what he is talking about is this PLUS it goes one step further and crawls each of those sites fr text contents.

[infecto]

His site won't do shit but I still don't like it. Always think google is going to come and get me ;)

[SmokeyTheBear]

ok this is a better example..

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:3...ed.%22&h l=en

That site is a full text scrape of timsmovies.com

[SmokeyTheBear]

if you notice on the bottom , they even stole his copyright notice

[infecto]

smokey, this wouldn't hurt the person they are copying would it?

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by infecto

smokey, this wouldn't hurt the person they are copying would it?

i was asking the same thing awhile ago.. i hope not . i noticed a guy doing it on domain that suddenly "dropped rank" he had like 200 domains directly copying my full site.. and it did it ON DEMAND. like if i changed my website text and checked his site , it was instantly changing his page , so his page must pull my page "on the fly"

[SmokeyTheBear]

i just banned those ip's from pulling my site and they just pull blank text now.. but i cant help but think it hurt me..

[infecto]

Yeah I would think it can't hurt that much because there must be some sort of distinction within the search engines but the thought that it does is always there.

[SmokeyTheBear]

well the only good thing is , if they target the top searches then it must hurt everyone equally

[pornguy]

Not sure if it will hurt you or not. But maybe passing the info to the SE will help keep you frome being hurt by it.

[Crypt]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

i just banned those ip's from pulling my site and they just pull blank text now.. but i cant help but think it hurt me..

You can use those ppl at you advantage sometime

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by infecto

If someone is copying text from your website without permission is it possible to get them taken down by their host?

try it and see what happens

[mardigras]

Originally Posted by infecto

Yeah I would think it can't hurt that much because there must be some sort of distinction within the search engines but the thought that it does is always there.

I've had pages practically fall out of Google while text copy pages took #1 results for site unique keywords...

[woj]

try searching for a sample c&d letter online and then I guess send it to them and their host, won't really cost you anything more than a stamp... and when they see a physical letter, good chance they will act on it to avoid any problems...