Etology Is A Bunch Of Fucking Crooks

[MikesTraffic]

My account EARNED OVER 1900 dollars in July, and after this recent delay of payments and me constantly trying to find out where my money was I get a fucking email saying that they had to "recalculate" my earnings and now they have me as getting 900 dollars less. the reason they gave was that I "replaced" the etology created ad codes, which is bullshit because once they were on my site they fucking stayed there (the exact code that their shitty webmaster area gave me)


That is fucked up. I no longer support these assholes anymore if they are going to deliberately steal almost half of my monthly earnings from me.

[G-Rotica]

Drama! no Sig Spot!

[Extreme John]

ruh roh....

[MikesTraffic]

ruh roh is fucking right, its plain out stealing when you take half of someones earnings when they did nothing but put your fucking code on the site. They are crooks. To think I actually stood up for them when they had other people say negative things. Never again

[ridikuloz]

scammageeee!

[MikesTraffic]

damn right it is scammage!

[Klen]

Well that's happening when you deal with torrent/warez supporter.

[MikesTraffic]

I stopped pushing them when I found out that they did that stuff among with other things that have happened.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by MikesTraffic

I stopped pushing them when I found out that they did that stuff among with other things that have happened.

Btw howmuch i know they are nothing else then traffic resseler like adbrite.Why dont you simply create your own advertising system?

[MikesTraffic]

I dont have the software or scripts to do it...right now im making way more sending to juggcash anyways

[DaddyHalbucks]

Sounds bad, sorry to hear that.

[PainThing]

Originally Posted by MikesTraffic

I dont have the software or scripts to do it...right now im making way more sending to juggcash anyways

http://www.openads.org/ openads is free ex: phpadsnew

[poncabare]

Hi Mike,



Your account was recently escalated to me because of the disappointment you?ve had regarding our payout. There were a couple of things that brought your account to our attention. After looking into your account I noticed that you were on two separate accounts, one a managed account with Etology EID=32443 and another self sign-up EID= 28076. On July 13th we provided ad code to be used on your website from our internal account management to be used on the site. This code was used for a day and then reverted back to original code. The intention was to use the new code while dropping the old code. However due to the difference in revenue who could blame you for reverting back to the more attractive higher earning ad code layout.



The main reason the account was flagged was due to the dramatic jump in clicks and advertiser complaints of many clicks originating from your site and no actions (conversions) thereafter on the users part. After researching we saw that our GTB images were placed similar videos and images on the main site. The GTB system itself is closed to the public because it is in beta released to selected users. Currently there isn?t a required field to prevent removal of Headlines, Location, and Age because GTB is an internal system and opened on request to very specific users.



After reviewing all of the information both myself and upper management decided to approve payment for the earnings that were adjusted for this particular instance. In particular, we made this decision because it was not clear to you that this was against our terms of use with the new beta system. We will be modifying our TOU to state explicitly that we do not allow the removal of Headlines, Locations, or Age variables in GTB?s and will be building in safeguards to prevent this from occurring in the future.



I?ve reviewed previous conversations with several of our internal account managers and did not find a clear message conveying the proper use of the GTB system which is the primary reason for our change. Our account review team flagged the account as fraudulent based on ?Click Spamming? in our Terms of Use.



It was also brought to my attention that conversations about ad serving latency was used as evidence that the ad code itself was okay to use. This was obviously not the intention of the messages conveyed but turned into a manner that benefited your argument. This was not taken into consideration during review of the account by then the decision was already made on the account by management but should be clarified that those messages were not in regards to compliance of layout. Another team in our company is responsible for fraud prevention.



Please understand that by using GTB?s in the manner that was on pornoshack lowers overall ROI across all publishers due to non-targeted ads, high click volume, and misleading ads (ads that look like site content) which is prohibited under our TOU often referred to as click spamming. This also prevents advertisers from returning due to the horrible conversion and drop off rate that is seen by the advertiser. The role of Etology and the platform is to ensure that there is a balance between advertisers and publishers so that no single party benefits at the others expense.



John

Director of IT

[DidierE]

Sorry to bump this thread but I received about the same fucking mail in my mailbox today!

here's what it says:

Dear XXX, While processing payments for July 2007, our account review team flagged your account for irregularities within the clicks you’ve received. Because of this your earnings are temporarily on hold. For consideration to have the hold released, please provide the following: - Submit any 3rd party statistics you may have (examples of 3rd party statistics programs include Analytics, Extremestats, OneStat, etc.) - Statistics should be for the entire month of July and August 2007 - Statistics should show the following metrics: - unique visitors (required) - pageviews (required) - geographic breakdown (if available) After sending the stats please allow 5-10 business days for review. Regards, The Etology Support Team

What the fuck is up with that shit? You guys are out of money or something? or you just don't like to pay?

If you want me to send my underwear along, let me know!

[geeknik]

Wow, that's awesome. I'll mark them down as another company NOT to do biz with.

[StarkReality]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Well that's happening when you deal with torrent/warez supporter.

Yep, if it's fishy and semi-legal to illegal, you'll find etology ads on it. They give a fuck on copyrights, so why should the rest of their business model more solid.

[Jace]

i signed up for them a LONG ass while ago and something didn't sit right when I was creating campaigns and ads.....

[RawAlex]

Hint: Etology was created by two "ex" exployees from AFF. Knowing how the business morals go in that company, it would appear that the apples didn't drop far from the tree.

If you want to determine if a given website is a scam, it is pretty simple: Look for AFF, Adbrite, or Etology on the page. If you find at least 2, you certainly have reason to think it might be a scam site.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by MikesTraffic

ruh roh is fucking right, its plain out stealing when you take half of someones earnings when they did nothing but put your fucking code on the site. They are crooks. To think I actually stood up for them when they had other people say negative things. Never again

well, they have no problem supporting content theft, i wouldnt think that their ethics would drastically change in relation to other people involved in their model.

still no response from them either on supporting content theft and supporting thief sites.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by poncabare

Hi Mike,



Your account was recently escalated to me because of the disappointment you?ve had regarding our payout. There were a couple of things that brought your account to our attention. After looking into your account I noticed that you were on two separate accounts, one a managed account with Etology EID=32443 and another self sign-up EID= 28076. On July 13th we provided ad code to be used on your website from our internal account management to be used on the site. This code was used for a day and then reverted back to original code. The intention was to use the new code while dropping the old code. However due to the difference in revenue who could blame you for reverting back to the more attractive higher earning ad code layout.



The main reason the account was flagged was due to the dramatic jump in clicks and advertiser complaints of many clicks originating from your site and no actions (conversions) thereafter on the users part. After researching we saw that our GTB images were placed similar videos and images on the main site. The GTB system itself is closed to the public because it is in beta released to selected users. Currently there isn?t a required field to prevent removal of Headlines, Location, and Age because GTB is an internal system and opened on request to very specific users.



After reviewing all of the information both myself and upper management decided to approve payment for the earnings that were adjusted for this particular instance. In particular, we made this decision because it was not clear to you that this was against our terms of use with the new beta system. We will be modifying our TOU to state explicitly that we do not allow the removal of Headlines, Locations, or Age variables in GTB?s and will be building in safeguards to prevent this from occurring in the future.



I?ve reviewed previous conversations with several of our internal account managers and did not find a clear message conveying the proper use of the GTB system which is the primary reason for our change. Our account review team flagged the account as fraudulent based on ?Click Spamming? in our Terms of Use.



It was also brought to my attention that conversations about ad serving latency was used as evidence that the ad code itself was okay to use. This was obviously not the intention of the messages conveyed but turned into a manner that benefited your argument. This was not taken into consideration during review of the account by then the decision was already made on the account by management but should be clarified that those messages were not in regards to compliance of layout. Another team in our company is responsible for fraud prevention.



Please understand that by using GTB?s in the manner that was on pornoshack lowers overall ROI across all publishers due to non-targeted ads, high click volume, and misleading ads (ads that look like site content) which is prohibited under our TOU often referred to as click spamming. This also prevents advertisers from returning due to the horrible conversion and drop off rate that is seen by the advertiser. The role of Etology and the platform is to ensure that there is a balance between advertisers and publishers so that no single party benefits at the others expense.



John

Director of IT

why are you guys supporting content theft?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hlight=etology

the content producers in the industry would like an answer.

[pocketkangaroo]

As others have said, this is a company that is OK with content theft. Anytime you deal with companies that have shady business ethics, you are probably going to get ripped off.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

why are you guys supporting content theft?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hlight=etology

the content producers in the industry would like an answer.

They will conveniently miss your post I'm guessing.

[ridikuloz]

I liked their stats system, but other than that.... :/

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

why are you guys supporting content theft?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hlight=etology

the content producers in the industry would like an answer.

Poncabare is suddenly silent...I guess it's pretty hard defending the underwriting of content theft through advertising...

ADG

[nosey]

Originally Posted by geeknik

Wow, that's awesome. I'll mark them down as another company NOT to do biz with.

indeed

[tony286]

man thats sad but as my grandmother used to say show me your friends and you show me yourself.

[GooSearch]

i want to thank all these larger companies that screw their webmasters.. guys these are the people that help our companies grow.. as of lately with all the problems people have been having with ad companies www.GooSearch.com has grown 3-fold..
To the larger companies losing sight.. keep it up..helps us underdogs

www.GooSearch.com

[itx]

Yes Etology is a fucking scam. I have a similar issue with this company.

Robert Teh <[email protected]>

After checking with our billing department, they received notification from our account review team about irregularities found within your account related to your earnings. For consideration of having the hold on your earnings released, please submit any 3rd party statistics....................

Don't do biz with this fraudulent company. They take 2 months for make the fucking payment.

Etology is shit

[MoreMagic]

More gigantic ETOLOGY drama coming soon. Stay tuned for a big NONO to ETOLOGY this week.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by tony404

man thats sad but as my grandmother used to say show me your friends and you show me yourself.

Your GrandMama sounds kinda kinky - guess that's where you get it from...

ADG

[itx]

bump bump

[itx]

another bump for expose this shit from etology

[RawAlex]

Etology is a willing and agressive supports of copyright violators, tube, and torrent sites. They are more than willing to lay down with crooks and shysters, why would you be surprised that they are willing to fuck you over on payout?

AFF, Etology, Adbrite... three companies IMHO that everyone should avoid. lay down with dogs, you get fleas and maybe rabies.

[itx]

bump for expose how this fuckers of Etology do business.