Verotel is killing rebills and shutting down sites - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 04:49 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

Tons.

how many tons ?

please give us some URLs....

GoLiaT · 10-19-2002, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

So they want it to be the United States of Europe?

yes thats what going to happend

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by DynaSpain

I assume you mean Puerto Banus the port in Marbella.....come by
and say in the Poco Loco beach club!

DynaMite

yes... of course Puerto Banus....

i prefer to say in the Olivia Valiente night club

Dirty F · 10-19-2002, 04:57 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]

Tons.

I wasnt joking, just wondering, cuz you are all over this thread and have servers in Holland.

I dont give a rats ass tho.

XXX_Jman · 10-19-2002, 04:59 AM

your sigs are not loading from here either.....neither is animaldollars.com

but I think there is some prob down the line 'cos I can't get directNIC and others either..

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by GoLiaT

yes thats what going to happend

haaaa.....very good.... we already moved all our biz to Russia in an anticipation move...

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by XXX_Jman
your sigs are not loading from here either.....neither is animaldollars.com

but I think there is some prob down the line 'cos I can't get directNIC and others either..

are you sure?....because our logs tells us a much different story

"http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:18 -0400] "GET /asacp.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 2390 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:19 -0400] "GET /us_aw_88x31.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 1395 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:20 -0400] "GET /fill2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 4054 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:22 -0400] "GET /images/part12.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 16283 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:25 -0400] "GET /images/part13.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 14968 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:27 -0400] "GET /images/part3-2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 3051 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:27 -0400] "GET /images/part4-2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 3079 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:29 -0400] "GET /images/part5-2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 3029 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:29 -0400] "GET /images/part6-2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 3087 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:31 -0400] "GET /images/part7-2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 3043 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:31 -0400] "GET /images/part8-2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 3300 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
62.147.38.144 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:34 -0400] "GET /images/part9-2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 4695 "http://www.animaldollars.com/" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
66.32.200.81 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:46 -0400] "GET /banners/dibill-100-anim-1.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 6119 "http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1014914" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Hotbar 4.1.7.0)"
66.32.200.81 - - [19/Oct/2002:09:24:46 -0400] "GET /banners/25-dollar-2.gif HTTP/1.1" 200 19434 "http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1014914" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; Hotbar 4.1.7.0)"

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by Battuss

I wasnt joking, just wondering, cuz you are all over this thread and have servers in Holland.

I dont give a rats ass tho.

hahaha.... yes.... maybe i´m a Hans Berger clone

XXX_Jman · 10-19-2002, 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by markusborger
are you sure?....because our logs tells us a much different story

Positive...but as I said I can't get some other sites so it maybe a router prob somewhere ....been plenty lately...

richard123 · 10-19-2002, 05:07 AM

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Originally posted by markusborger

hahaha.... good jocke mate !

your didn´t made any request from that IP

maybe your are Mr. 80.32.2.154 ?

What kind of drugs do you take? I'd like some

It doesn't load from 203.51.174.54 either.
And not from 203.173.165.233 either.

And I really don't see why me and these other people should think it's funny? I'm obviously missing some great secret joke here.... hmmmm.... Time to go to bed maybe.

x3guide · 10-19-2002, 05:12 AM

Animaldollars didn't load here either.

What are we going to do!

quiet · 10-19-2002, 05:13 AM

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Originally posted by x3guide
Animaldollars didn't load here either.

What are we going to do!

lol

richard123 · 10-19-2002, 05:15 AM

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Originally posted by x3guide
Animaldollars didn't load here either.

What are we going to do!

Haha What a great jocke. I can see a different story here! Good one!

FATPad · 10-19-2002, 05:16 AM

FEAR NOT, ANIMAL LOVERS!

My favorite beast site is still working!

Damian_Maxcash · 10-19-2002, 05:17 AM

Working fine here in New Zealand - 210.86.53.###

Just in case anyone is remotley interested

Bloody fast actually - maybe its because Im the only one who can see it

quiet · 10-19-2002, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
FEAR NOT, ANIMAL LOVERS!

My favorite beast site is still working!

sorry, it's not loading for me.

FATPad · 10-19-2002, 05:20 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

sorry, it's not loading for me.

Well that certainly sucks.

Incognito · 10-19-2002, 05:21 AM

to [Labret]:
The Hans Burger

guy , as I always call him, is not totally brilliant as one might think.

he's just old and crazy and really in case someone is interested - he breaks his own words very easily. That's what he did once to me.

By the way, a certain BIG (like 50-70%) percent of his ZOO content was made in Russia, Moscow.

About 3 or so years ago.

Labret, knock me on ICQ 43432801 please or send me Yours. I'd like to compare my info on current situation with Yours.

quiet · 10-19-2002, 05:21 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Well that certainly sucks.

yes. did you need my ip?

FATPad · 10-19-2002, 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

yes. did you need my ip?

Not really.

But I suppose if you want, I could ask for it, you can say no, then I can make a joke and call your Mr 20.20.20.20 or something.

Sorry...I'm new to this beasty stuff.

Incognito · 10-19-2002, 05:28 AM

Puerto Banus by the way is a terrible place for last couple of years.
Fake shops with fake business and tell me if I'm wrong.

It used to be glamorous untill crowds of tourists came.

Incognito · 10-19-2002, 05:29 AM

Quiet, can I also contact You somehow?

ControlThy · 10-19-2002, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by Incognito
Quiet, can I also contact You somehow?

Are you going to try to sell him bestiality pictures?

Incognito · 10-19-2002, 05:35 AM

sort of.
VISA CEO and his favourite pet.

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by Incognito
Quiet, can I also contact You somehow?

yes...of course why not... here is my email....

[email protected]

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by richard123

What kind of drugs do you take? I'd like some It doesn't load from 203.51.174.54 either.
And not from 203.173.165.233 either.

And I really don't see why me and these other people should think it's funny? I'm obviously missing some great secret joke here.... hmmmm.... Time to go to bed maybe.

sorry dude... we just came to the conclusion that our Hoster is having some routing problems today....

we will try to get this matter solved asap.....

Damian_Maxcash · 10-19-2002, 06:13 AM

Sorry markusborger

Your server had died for me now as well ..... must be some kind of server rot......

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 06:21 AM

yes...

we are getting a Deny of Service attack right now...

this must come from those VEROTEL bastards that are furious because we told people the truth

about their scam business....

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 06:25 AM

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Originally posted by damian2001
Sorry markusborger

Your server had died for me now as well ..... must be some kind of server rot......

yes.... this is a Deny of Service attack from VEROTEL and Hans Berger....

we put our fingers in their ass holes.... that´s why they are mad ...

KingK7 · 10-19-2002, 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by Incognito
Puerto Banus by the way is a terrible place for last couple of years.
Fake shops with fake business and tell me if I'm wrong.
It used to be glamorous untill crowds of tourists came.

Puerto Banus is still decent, too many tourists in the high season though. As well as russians, they seem to be everywhere these days. And they are usually up to no good.

Still, plenty of good shops there, great nightlife and still pretty exclusive. I lived there for 2 years, still love the place.

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by KingK7

Puerto Banus is still decent, too many tourists in the high season though. As well as russians, they seem to be everywhere these days. And they are usually up to no good.

Still, plenty of good shops there, great nightlife and still pretty exclusive. I lived there for 2 years, still love the place.

yes.... it´s a great place....but with too much criminals around

KingK7 · 10-19-2002, 06:57 AM

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Originally posted by markusborger

yes.... it´s a great place....but with too much criminals around

True, but depends what you define as criminals.
You'd never get robbed on the street there. The criminals in Puerto Banus are not street-criminals ;)

I cant say the same for certain other parts of Spain though, Alicante and certain regions of it springs to mind...
There is so much crime around those parts its totally out of control. Used to live there as well for a couple years, before moving to Puerto Banus, and it blows.

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 07:01 AM

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Originally posted by KingK7

True, but depends what you define as criminals.
You'd never get robbed on the street there. The criminals in Puerto Banus are not street-criminals ;)

I cant say the same for certain other parts of Spain though, Alicante and certain regions of it springs to mind...
There is so much crime around those parts its totally out of control. Used to live there as well for a couple years, before moving to Puerto Banus, and it blows.

right on!

they are high-end criminals that steal 6 brand new Mercedes in one strike

.... not pick pockets that will rip your wallet to by a dose of dope...

ServerGenius · 10-19-2002, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by KingK7

True, but depends what you define as criminals.
You'd never get robbed on the street there. The criminals in Puerto Banus are not street-criminals ;)

I cant say the same for certain other parts of Spain though, Alicante and certain regions of it springs to mind...
There is so much crime around those parts its totally out of control. Used to live there as well for a couple years, before moving to Puerto Banus, and it blows.

I live close to Alicante and the street crime in tourist hotspots
is high......as in every tourist hotspot....as soon as you move
out of there......no problems at all.....You just shouldn't settle
down in a forgeigners colony like many people do.......but who
wants that anyway....except for brits, scandanavians and
germans?

DynaMite

Incognito · 10-19-2002, 08:44 AM

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Originally posted by KingK7

Puerto Banus is still decent, too many tourists in the high season though. As well as russians, they seem to be everywhere these days. And they are usually up to no good.

Still, plenty of good shops there, great nightlife and still pretty exclusive. I lived there for 2 years, still love the place.

Yep. Usually they are up to buying property there and then look on all foreign criminals coming to our spain!

Seriously the place is fucked.
I used to live there every summer for many years already. 6 or something like this.

It's not like it used to be.

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by Incognito

Yep. Usually they are up to buying property there and then look on all foreign criminals coming to our spain!

Seriously the place is fucked.
I used to live there every summer for many years already. 6 or something like this.

It's not like it used to be.

yes.... all Spain has i high level of criminality these days...

if you want to stay away from problems and be in a place a lot better than Puerto Bannus....

then try Vilamoura in Algarve - Portugal

http://www.vilamoura.com/

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by markusborger

right on!

they are high-end criminals that steal 6 brand new Mercedes in one strike .... not pick pockets that will rip your wallet to buy a dose of dope...

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by damian2001
Sorry markusborger

Your server had died for me now as well ..... must be some kind of server rot......

the problem is that our hoster is swapping a faulty router today

steffie · 10-19-2002, 09:04 AM

I don't think the issue is really Beast or not Beast.

The issue is censoring the websites.

When Beast Sex Sites or other iffy niche sites signup with a biller the biller knows, doesn't matter if it is Verotel or any other company out there.

Now under pressure they are closing sites, returning membership fees over night.

What ever happend to being grandfathered in?

Don't laugh - Today Beast, tomorrow BDSM

The Porn Community needs its own Credit Card. The big boys should get together and come up with some sort of PCC (Porn Credit Card).

I bet most webmasters will use it and promote it.

markusborger · 10-19-2002, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by steffie
I don't think the issue is really Beast or not Beast.

The issue is censoring the websites.

When Beast Sex Sites or other iffy niche sites signup with a biller the biller knows, doesn't matter if it is Verotel or any other company out there.

Now under pressure they are closing sites, returning membership fees over night.

What ever happend to being grandfathered in?

Don't laugh - Today Beast, tomorrow BDSM

The Porn Community needs its own Credit Card. The big boys should get together and come up with some sort of PCC (Porn Credit Card).

I bet most webmasters will use it and promote it.

yes true.....

we the beast webmaster are the first to suffer from the problems around.... but are the 1st to find solutions for them too...

steffie · 10-19-2002, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by markusborger

yes true.....

we the beast webmaster are the first to suffer from the problems around.... but are the 1st to find solutions for them too...

I am counting on that,, hate to see my sites being shut down over night because Visa didn't like something I have.

This is creepy.

We are all adults, if I wanna see a dog doing a girl, thats my choice. If I want to see a 90 year old granny humping a 18 year old boy, so be it.

But please don't censor me by taking my right to use my credit cards the way I want too. If I go out and buy satanic symbols with my Visa card or check out Beast/BDSM/Rape sites that should be my decision.

Censorship is bad. Period!

FATPad · 10-19-2002, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by steffie

But please don't censor me by taking my right to use my credit cards the way I want too. If I go out and buy satanic symbols with my Visa card or check out Beast/BDSM/Rape sites that should be my decision.

Censorship is bad. Period!

VISA is a convenience service not a guaranteed civil right. You don't have any right to use VISA if the truth be told.

Incognito · 10-19-2002, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad

VISA is a convenience service not a guaranteed civil right. You don't have any right to use VISA if the truth be told.

wrong.
I think there's a law someone mentioned here. Public comfort or some shit like that.

if they are used like money world wide - they cant play THAT bad.

Pipecrew · 10-19-2002, 11:47 AM

hans berger sounds like hamburger

steffie · 10-19-2002, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad

VISA is a convenience service not a guaranteed civil right. You don't have any right to use VISA if the truth be told.

I never thought about it that way, but you are probably right. However I don't use my "Visa" Credit Card, but my Visa Check Card.

When I opened my checking account they asked if I would like a debit card, I said sure! When I received my debit card they visa symbol was on it and I called the bank and asked them about it. They told me that everywhere Visa is accepted I can now use my checking account debit card, its an addition.

I thought this was kewl and a great addition. I have since that day 3 years ago hardly used cash anymore, checks? pfff I haven't written a check in a store since that day either. It's a great conviniece.

So basically its my checking account. I think more billers should have debit card options. Sure credit cards are great, but if they would can Visa from my site and offer checking only, I would signup with my checking account and recurr on that.

Oh well I guess we just sit back and wait to see who else will fall under the Visa Censorship.

It's a shame really!

And i do stand to my point. I don't like Censorship. Just because I don't like or agree with something or pictures posted on the net that doesn't mean they (Credit Card Companies) should take it in their own hands to tell us Adults what we can do with our Credit Cards.

I wonder if a letter about this would be published in the Washington Post. Hm I might give that a try.

Censorship in America - Visa censores adult access to Adult Only Websites!! What is next? Buying Sextoys with Visa? Pornographic magazines, access to movie theaters who play porn.

hmmmm

Incognito · 10-19-2002, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
hans berger sounds like hamburger

Oh really?

schilli · 10-19-2002, 01:00 PM

I like Verotel -- have been using them for some time now.

Never had any problems with them -- but then I'm not into lolita or beast sites!

markusborger · 10-20-2002, 06:22 AM

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Originally posted by schilli
I like Verotel -- have been using them for some time now.

Never had any problems with them -- but then I'm not into lolita or beast sites!

this has nothing to do with lolitas or beast.... this has only to do with Chargeback ratios....

JJMedia · 10-20-2002, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by markusborger

this has nothing to do with lolitas or beast.... this has only to do with Chargeback ratios....

From what I have heard it has got nothing to do with high chargebacks. The only thing it has got something to do with is VISA wanting to play god once again, telling you what you can and can not put on your page.... I was told one of the models VISA complained about was 27 years old, and that they had model releases and all papers in order. But it didn't help, she had ponytails and VISA must not have liked that. So the site had to be closed down, or they would lose their merchant account, simple as that.

And where did you get your information about Verotel being involved in this, it has got nothing to do with Verotel. This is all Hans Burger / VISA stuff. It was on his own private merchant account those rebills were deleted, not a Verotel account....

Honeyslut · 10-20-2002, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DynaSpain
Kids [Labret] is right....I know Hans Burger and The owners of
verotel personally....no matter what you all think [Labret] is well
informed.....go back and do your homework!

DynaMite

Labret's always right and only a fool would argue with him.

10-19-2002, 04:59 AM	#55
XXX_Jman Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Up my own ass Posts: 213	your sigs are not loading from here either.....neither is animaldollars.com but I think there is some prob down the line 'cos I can't get directNIC and others either.. __________________ XXX_Jman "To win without fighting is best"

10-19-2002, 05:12 AM	#61
x3guide Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: lake titicaca Posts: 735	Animaldollars didn't load here either. What are we going to do! __________________ Shomer fuckin shabbas

10-19-2002, 05:16 AM	#64
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	FEAR NOT, ANIMAL LOVERS! My favorite beast site is still working! __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

10-19-2002, 05:21 AM	#68
Incognito Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: RU Posts: 371	to [Labret]: The Hans Burger guy , as I always call him, is not totally brilliant as one might think. he's just old and crazy and really in case someone is interested - he breaks his own words very easily. That's what he did once to me. By the way, a certain BIG (like 50-70%) percent of his ZOO content was made in Russia, Moscow. About 3 or so years ago. Labret, knock me on ICQ 43432801 please or send me Yours. I'd like to compare my info on current situation with Yours. __________________ -=almost fucking incognito=-

10-19-2002, 05:28 AM	#71
Incognito Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: RU Posts: 371	Puerto Banus by the way is a terrible place for last couple of years. Fake shops with fake business and tell me if I'm wrong. It used to be glamorous untill crowds of tourists came. __________________ -=almost fucking incognito=-

10-19-2002, 05:17 AM	#65
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Working fine here in New Zealand - 210.86.53.### Just in case anyone is remotley interested Bloody fast actually - maybe its because Im the only one who can see it

10-19-2002, 05:29 AM	#72
Incognito Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: RU Posts: 371	Quiet, can I also contact You somehow? __________________ -=almost fucking incognito=-

10-19-2002, 05:35 AM	#74
Incognito Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: RU Posts: 371	sort of. VISA CEO and his favourite pet. __________________ -=almost fucking incognito=-

10-19-2002, 06:13 AM	#77
Damian_Maxcash So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MaxCash.com Posts: 12,745	Sorry markusborger Your server had died for me now as well ..... must be some kind of server rot......

10-19-2002, 06:21 AM	#78
markusborger So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 145	yes... we are getting a Deny of Service attack right now... this must come from those VEROTEL bastards that are furious because we told people the truth about their scam business....

10-19-2002, 09:04 AM	#89
steffie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Mountains, far far away Posts: 2,422	I don't think the issue is really Beast or not Beast. The issue is censoring the websites. When Beast Sex Sites or other iffy niche sites signup with a biller the biller knows, doesn't matter if it is Verotel or any other company out there. Now under pressure they are closing sites, returning membership fees over night. What ever happend to being grandfathered in? Don't laugh - Today Beast, tomorrow BDSM The Porn Community needs its own Credit Card. The big boys should get together and come up with some sort of PCC (Porn Credit Card). I bet most webmasters will use it and promote it. __________________ Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

10-19-2002, 11:47 AM	#94
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,877	hans berger sounds like hamburger

10-19-2002, 01:00 PM	#97
schilli Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 265	I like Verotel -- have been using them for some time now. Never had any problems with them -- but then I'm not into lolita or beast sites!