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Old 09-22-2009, 11:25 PM   #1
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An open Letter to Eric and Ice...

Why cater and support a company that has hurt everyone in the industry including such a big, powerful publicly traded company like yourselves, Playboy?

Please help us understand so we can all go away and move on from this disaster mistake we all think you guys made.

On Behalf of all your members here which is majority of the industry, Why?
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:25 PM   #2
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Old 09-22-2009, 11:29 PM   #3
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Not only that look at this

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Old 09-22-2009, 11:31 PM   #5
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Guess we know who owns tube8 now
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dammn cleaning cache now, this whole thing is so fucked up
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Looks about right 3PIC.COM http://ns1.titov.net/
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Why cater and support a company that has hurt everyone in the industry including such a big, powerful publicly traded company like yourselves, Playboy?

Please help us understand so we can all go away and move on from this disaster mistake we all think you guys made.

On Behalf of all your members here which is majority of the industry, Why?
i agree with you, but the answer to your question is the same it is to why other shitty companies advertise here....


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From 3pic.com whois.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:00 AM   #18
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I heard that................................
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:01 AM   #19
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Has anyone tried:

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Calle Ramon Arias
Panama City
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Phone: +507.5072630345

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Tried what?
It's a valid address in Panama City. Probably a law firm.
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Wonder how long until this blows over, lol.
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Wow, the links posted in this thread are so fucked up. And right below this post box in the background is the logo of the company hosting that kind of shit.
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On Behalf of all your members here which is majority of the industry, Why?
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Looks about right 3PIC.COM http://ns1.titov.net/
Ask JFK. He was at AWN Open in Cprus where Tube8 guy had presentation with his buddy from webazilla. Care to guess who's hosting tube8.com ??? Bingo.. Webazilla!!! Guess who owns webazilla? Whoopty, same guy that owns real-bucks.com Do you think you will see real-bucks.com content on Tube8.com ?? No fucking way compadre. You see where Im going with this?
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GFY has become as useless as makeup on an ugly whore. I'm with CyberAge-Dave on this one. WTF Eric? Nice way to sell us ALL out... I feel sorry for your desperation to sell ads.
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You can be sure that this skin was considered carefully before it went live. If you want to show your disapproval of GFY, then stop reading and posting here. Otherwise, nothing will change.

I will be at (oops, I broke a bro-rule, ban me.)
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Do you think you will see real-bucks.com content on Tube8.com ?? No fucking way compadre. You see where Im going with this?
All the big tubes are owned by big paysite programs. You could play their own game if you like.
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It's a valid address in Panama City. Probably a law firm.
Ding Ding Ding!

The phone number is for the Arosemena and Arosemena law firm, which advertises a service to help set up offshore corporations, for which no taxes are assessed.

So anyone know what's the skinny on 3pic? I've never dealt with them before.

Eric, your silence is doing damage to the reputation of your company. People have raised legitimate concerns, and you are simply ignoring them.

If you are going to take in ad revenue from companies that are considered by many to be shady and detrimental to the industry, then at least have the courage and forthrightness to explain your rationale.

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Eric, your silence is doing damage to the reputation of your company. People have raised legitimate concerns, and you are simply ignoring them.

at least have the courage and forthrightness to explain your rationale.
They don't care and they don't owe us any explanation. Both of these should have been obvious by now.
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obviously the answer is money.. if they weren't offering it, it wouldnt have happened.

Anyone ever hear of the Russian Mafia?...

ok gfy when I say pockets you say how deep.
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Please help us understand so we can all go away and move on from this disaster mistake we all think you guys made.

On Behalf of all your members here which is majority of the industry, Why?
I feel the same way on this.
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http://ns1.tube8.com/
PLAYBOY, one of the most prestigious names EVER in the adult industry, is now accepting ad money from a company who:

1) Violates copyright law.
2) Is partially responsible for seriously harming the industry, even PLAYBOY itself.
3) Promotes "lolita" porn.

Wow.

This is truly a sign of the times and sad proof that PLAYBOY is literally on its last leg. They may be out of business before most of the guys here, at the rate they have been losing money and with this show of total desperation. Perhaps this is karma at work.
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First... I agree with the OP...

Second... don't expect a reply. You are witnessing corporate capitalism in pure form and they know that 2 weeks from now noone will be posting about it... it won't hurt their customer/affiliate base and TrafficJunky will be selling plenty of traffic. Welcome to reality, my friends. It doesn't matter what business you are in... if real money is involved you can kiss ethics goodbye.
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I wouldn't bet on getting a response from them at this point. They're pussying out on this one.
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I will be at SOLO GIRL BOARD . com (oops, I broke a bro-rule, ban me.)
Nice idea but I doubt others will follow you. If thread views dive bombed or advertisers decided that it was counter-productive to advertise on a forum supporting shits like this, then they might start to think.
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I will never go to a show or buy entrance fee's etc into any of their sponsored shows EVER
I cant believe I actually thought about going to their WA this week

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Unfortunately GFY seems to be recognizing that the paid membership/affiliate model in this business is dead. I can download a full length (2 hour) high quality porn video in almost any niche from pornbb right now in under 5 minutes. Why would anyone pay at this point? Micro niches will continue to sell for a while but eventually (6 months) it will all be available for free. It is a speeding train that no one can stop.

It seems that GFY is just accepting the inevitable before the rest of us. Still pisses me off though.
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