New Broker Account Requirements by AFF

[MrDeiz]

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Important: New Broker Account Requirements by AdultFriendFinder (AFF)

Effective May 27, 2010, Medley.com will be introducing new Know Your Customer ("KYC") requirements for brokers of affiliate accounts.

As part of the registration process, you will need to provide a current copy of your government issued ID (the "ID"). If the broker is a corporate (or similar) entity, it must provide a copy of its organizational documents and the ID of an officer or director. The deadline to submit these documents is June 26, 2010.*

Please send all documents to: [email protected] and include your Affiliate ID: XXXXXX with the submission.

* Please click here for complete listing of Know Your Customer broker requirements.

“Know Your Customer” Broker Account Requirements

1. In order to comply with our Know Your Customer ("KYC") requirements, beginning May 27, 2010, if you are a broker of any affiliate accounts, and in addition to any other information that you provide Medley, e.g., name, address, taxpayer identification number, as part of the registration process, you will need to provide a current copy of your government issued ID (the "ID"). If the broker is a corporate (or similar) entity, it must provide a copy of its organizational documents and the ID of an officer or director. All information provided to Medley is subject to verification for accuracy and completeness prior to any payment being remitted to broker.

DEADLINE: ANY FAILURE TO SUBMIT THE REQUIRED INFORMATION BY JUNE 26, 2010, WILL RESULT IN THE TERMINATION OF ALL EXISTING BROKER ACCOUNT(S) EFFECTIVE AS OF MAY 27, 2010.
2. No party or entity is entitled to or shall receive any Commission or fee for acting as a broker for any affiliate account that he, she or it owns or operates, directly or indirectly. Medley has the sole right to determine such relationship. In making this determination, Medley may consider various factors, some of which could include: (i) the name and location as the affiliate; (ii) the number of affiliate accounts the broker represents; (iii) the traffic source of the broker account and any affiliate accounts; and/or (iv) the date of the creation of the respective broker and affiliate accounts.
3. A person acting as a broker must operate at least one current affiliate account that receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period and have all accounts in good standing. In addition, to remain a broker, at least every three months, broker must provide Medley with at least one new affiliate who also receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period.
4. The following persons or entities are ineligible to receive any commission or fee for acting as a broker: (i) Employees and consultants of Friendfinder Networks, Inc., and its affiliated entities (collectively "FFN"); (ii) Employees consultants, subsidiaries and affiliated companies of any third-party advertising affiliates; (iii) any family members of employees and consultants of FFN or any third-party advertising affiliates; or (iv) any person or entity engaging in fraud or acting in collusion with the parties listed in (i) through (iii) of this section.

[SomeCreep]

Originally Posted by daizzzy

Effective May 27, 2010, Medley.com will be introducing new Know Your Customer ("KYC") requirements for brokers of affiliate accounts.

As part of the registration process, you will need to provide a current copy of your government issued ID (the "ID").

I guess that means you, white shadow.

[$5 submissions]

Serious development but what % of their affiliate base will be affected by this?

[greg80]

3. A person acting as a broker must operate at least one current affiliate account that receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period and have all accounts in good standing. In addition, to remain a broker, at least every three months, broker must provide Medley with at least one new affiliate who also receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period.

This worries me the most. Does that mean that if you don't send a new affiliate every 3 month that makes $50 in payouts, you will loose you broker status and not be paid for any affiliate you have sent in the past anymore???????

[Domain Diva]

Originally Posted by greg80

3. A person acting as a broker must operate at least one current affiliate account that receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period and have all accounts in good standing. In addition, to remain a broker, at least every three months, broker must provide Medley with at least one new affiliate who also receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period.

This worries me the most. Does that mean that if you don't send a new affiliate every 3 month that makes $50 in payouts, you will loose you broker status and not be paid for any affiliate you have sent in the past anymore???????

Seems to read that way

[greg80]

bump. I want to know what is going on. I don't want to loose my broker revenue.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by greg80

3. A person acting as a broker must operate at least one current affiliate account that receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period and have all accounts in good standing. In addition, to remain a broker, at least every three months, broker must provide Medley with at least one new affiliate who also receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period.

This worries me the most. Does that mean that if you don't send a new affiliate every 3 month that makes $50 in payouts, you will loose you broker status and not be paid for any affiliate you have sent in the past anymore???????

Of course it does. They want to fuck you and are going to at any cost.

[Agent 488]

sucks to be you.

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by greg80

3. A person acting as a broker must operate at least one current affiliate account that receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period and have all accounts in good standing. In addition, to remain a broker, at least every three months, broker must provide Medley with at least one new affiliate who also receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period.

This worries me the most. Does that mean that if you don't send a new affiliate every 3 month that makes $50 in payouts, you will loose you broker status and not be paid for any affiliate you have sent in the past anymore???????

I don't know why they would want to force brokers to become active affiliates?

I mean, I can see why, but it seems like it would have more drawbacks than benefits. Not every broker with webmaster traffic has surfer traffic. I wouldn't want to cut someone off who's sending me active webmasters because they aren't also currently generating their own signups / sales.

[greg80]

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

I don't know why they would want to force brokers to become active affiliates?

I mean, I can see why, but it seems like it would have more drawbacks than benefits. Not every broker with webmaster traffic has surfer traffic. I wouldn't want to cut someone off who's sending me active webmasters because they aren't also currently generating their own signups / sales.

True. I am also very active affilaite. Ony problem for me is that I need to find a new affiliate every 3 months that makes money. Most people in adult are pure loosers and make nothing.

[dav3]

Glad I don't push them.

[DateDoc]

They probably have a lot of affiliates that sign up and resign up under themselves multiple times to increase the overall payout.

[TeenCat]

if all your money are from referred affiliates, god bless you

[Naechy]

decided to shut down two unprofitable sites h

[greg80]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

if all your money are from referred affiliates, god bless you

No, I don't. I have some referrals and I obviously don't want to loose them.

[WiredGuy]

Hmmm, odd change of ToS for referral traffic.
WG

[Jack Sparrow]

yet you keep hiding your reflink on the aff link in your post daizzy?

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

They probably have a lot of affiliates that sign up and resign up under themselves multiple times to increase the overall payout.

Nice theory. Makes sense.

[DamnGoodRatio]

"They probably have a lot of affiliates that sign up and resign up under themselves multiple times to increase the overall payout."

Even if this is a theory and proves true it sucks for those that are doing it the right way.
Think they are shooting themselves in the foot in the long run, even if the short run looks good . . .

[greg80]

They didn't pay out broker earnings for about two months now I think. I spoke to my rep and he told me they will probably do it in June.

[ShellyCrash]

Originally Posted by greg80

They didn't pay out broker earnings for about two months now I think. I spoke to my rep and he told me they will probably do it in June.

Wow, that's really strange.

[will76]

Originally Posted by greg80

3. A person acting as a broker must operate at least one current affiliate account that receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period and have all accounts in good standing. In addition, to remain a broker, at least every three months, broker must provide Medley with at least one new affiliate who also receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period.

This worries me the most. Does that mean that if you don't send a new affiliate every 3 month that makes $50 in payouts, you will loose you broker status and not be paid for any affiliate you have sent in the past anymore???????

Probably and not a surprise either. Can't say this enough, if you still promoting those guys you get what you deserve.

[kristin]

Wow, if I want to continue promoting AFF I have to do my own regular job, and then theirs to get new affiliates? That doesn't seem right.

I think some clarification is needed.

[MrDeiz]

Originally Posted by greg80

They didn't pay out broker earnings for about two months now I think. I spoke to my rep and he told me they will probably do it in June.

last payment i got from them was apr 21
since that all the money are in hold. i've sent them the stuff yesterday, though didn't get any reply (those new terms are very unclear)

[MrDeiz]

Originally Posted by DamnGoodRatio

Think they are shooting themselves in the foot in the long run, even if the short run looks good . . .

exactly

[Marcus Aurelius]

Good for AFF. Sounds like a great move.

Fuck all those leeching sigwhores living off of other peoples sales.

[DukeSkywalker]

laughing like Nelson
ds

[ErectMedia]

I got no problem with the send in your ID part but losing all your referrals unless you make $50 a period and all your referrals make $50 a period not too cool. 1 Referral makes $49 and then you lose them all? Bump for clarification as I'm assuming this applies to everything in their program like Cams.com? Don't mind them changing the rules but if this is the case they should let us remove the links from the white labels as the cams white label has 1 affiliate referral in the top navigation and 3 links in the footer for models, studios and referrals and you don't get paid for model or studio referrals and with these new rules probably lose your affiliate referrals over time anyway so no sense having 4 links on a site sending traffic we wont get paid for or we will lose as soon as 1 account doesn't make $50.

[MPGdevil]

People still supporting AFF? Amazing.

[Elli]

Ok, I can clarify some of the sticky spots for people:

- You only need to have one affiliate under your broker account who has accounts in good standing and makes the minimum $50 per period. All of your downstream does not have to be making that much.

- The one affiliate under you who meets the requirements means all your broker links can be paid out. So you do not need an affiliate for cams, one for aff, one for ALT, etc.

- This is a requirement to be paid out on your broker account. Your normal affiliate account payments will not be affected.

[Elli]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

They probably have a lot of affiliates that sign up and resign up under themselves multiple times to increase the overall payout.

This is exactly the problem these new requirements were meant to rectify.

[MrDeiz]

hey Elli
have you got my icq message?

[Elli]

More clarification:

- The broker needs to have at least one regular affiliate account earning the $50 minimum in a pay period. So you can't just be living off your broker referrals. You must also be sending active traffic to get paid on your broker account.

[bjlover]

Originally Posted by Elli

More clarification:

- The broker needs to have at least one regular affiliate account earning the $50 minimum in a pay period. So you can't just be living off your broker referrals. You must also be sending active traffic to get paid on your broker account.

What problem is this new requirement meant to rectify?

[HAPPYPEEKERS]

Originally Posted by Elli

Ok, I can clarify some of the sticky spots for people:

- You only need to have one affiliate under your broker account who has accounts in good standing and makes the minimum $50 per period. All of your downstream does not have to be making that much.

- The one affiliate under you who meets the requirements means all your broker links can be paid out. So you do not need an affiliate for cams, one for aff, one for ALT, etc.

- This is a requirement to be paid out on your broker account. Your normal affiliate account payments will not be affected.

So the deal is.. I must bring in 1 new affiliate every 3 months ... but as long as "Someone" in my broker list is making $50 a month.. I am fine..
Is this correct Elli?

[Elli]

Originally Posted by Happypeekers

So the deal is.. I must bring in 1 new affiliate every 3 months ... but as long as "Someone" in my broker list is making $50 a month.. I am fine..
Is this correct Elli?

You must bring in a new affiliate who makes the $50 per period minimum every three months. In this first three months, someone in your downstream must be making the minimum. This is only for you to get paid on your broker account.

Please contact your affiliate manager with questions you might have, folks. I'm doing my best here to clarify, but I understand each person might have a slightly different situation.

[Elli]

Originally Posted by bjlover

What problem is this new requirement meant to rectify?

The problem that involves people signing up in their own downstream and earning extra %ages off their own traffic over and over again.

[CamTraffic]

Originally Posted by Elli

More clarification:

- The broker needs to have at least one regular affiliate account earning the $50 minimum in a pay period. So you can't just be living off your broker referrals. You must also be sending active traffic to get paid on your broker account.

that's total BS

[DBS.US]

Is this just for people in Arizona?

[Nicky]

[Elli]

OK, I've been talking with a few managers and found out what's going on:

FFN held back all broker payments for the payout date of June 1st until the 16th while we switch to the new regulations. This triggered an email yesterday to be sent to everyone. As long as you have sent in your proper documentation and the info matches the info on your account, you WILL BE PAID on June 16th any amounts owing on your Broker Accounts (provided they're above the $50 minimum payout.)

If you have ANY questions, please contact your affiliate manager.

[MrDeiz]

once i got some clarifications from Elli those new rules don't look that bad anymore. there's a piece of common sense there and they have every right to do this

he issue was caused because aff managers have ignored my requests

thumbs up for Elli

[Hornydog4cooter]

Originally Posted by Elli

OK, I've been talking with a few managers and found out what's going on:

FFN held back all broker payments for the payout date of June 1st until the 16th while we switch to the new regulations. This triggered an email yesterday to be sent to everyone. As long as you have sent in your proper documentation and the info matches the info on your account, you WILL BE PAID on June 16th any amounts owing on your Broker Accounts (provided they're above the $50 minimum payout.)

If you have ANY questions, please contact your affiliate manager.

Quick question Elli are we allowed to cookie stuff on brokerage accounts and affiliate accounts? Would like some clarity to this issue...

[xclicks]

Originally Posted by Elli

The problem that involves people signing up in their own downstream and earning extra %ages off their own traffic over and over again.

Hi,
It looks like your pretty face is good only for shows on cams.. Simple math would say:

1 degree referral 10%
2 degree referral 10% of 10% means 1%
3 degree referral 10% of 10% of 10% means 0.1%

Now I can create a master account and then I make 2nd and 3rd degree reffs under it..
Instead of $1000 per month I can get $1110 but..However just 2 degree will get paid of 100 and 1 degree will need to wait 5 more months to get 50. More than 3 degree doesn't count.

So it looks like AFF is greedy enough and salivate to get those 10 percent back because in real life probably there are only about 2% of cheaters of this kind.

I would say #3 - the obligation to bring a new reff every 3 month to make $50 is the killer one and probably here they will grab about 7% back in their pockets from those 10% .

After this I can predict only 1% of broker accounts will survive.

[goodsites]

Originally Posted by greg80

3. A person acting as a broker must operate at least one current affiliate account that receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period and have all accounts in good standing. In addition, to remain a broker, at least every three months, broker must provide Medley with at least one new affiliate who also receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period.

This worries me the most. Does that mean that if you don't send a new affiliate every 3 month that makes $50 in payouts, you will loose you broker status and not be paid for any affiliate you have sent in the past anymore???????

YES!

Thats exactly what it means, and its plain theft.
They have been reducing my checks the last 3 months which have been steady as a rock for years by over 70% on the broker program, and removed my earnings by 90%

Now this bullshit comes in to seal the deal and end the money you earned promoting them for all these years

Time to dump AFF And Cams.com, and that means this game is officially over..

Fucking pricks

[goodsites]

Originally Posted by Elli

The problem that involves people signing up in their own downstream and earning extra %ages off their own traffic over and over again.

Bullshit this has been known for 20 years and was an incentive, now you are just jerking.. see ya Elli your job is next

[goodsites]

Originally Posted by Elli

More clarification:

- The broker needs to have at least one regular affiliate account earning the $50 minimum in a pay period. So you can't just be living off your broker referrals. You must also be sending active traffic to get paid on your broker account.

That aint no clarification thats a straight up lie compared to what the document says

[Elli]

Originally Posted by goodsites

That aint no clarification thats a straight up lie compared to what the document says

I've spoken with managers and that is how they clarified the document to me.

If you have any questions regarding your own account with FFN, please contact your affiliate manager directly. They'll be able to help clarify.

[goodsites]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

if all your money are from referred affiliates, god bless you

Not all of it, but I have been noticely alot of my earned sales have been mysteriously going down event though i actually got a huge spender this last month.. Always seeing $100 charges dissappear the next day.then back to $0.00 then $2.00. Like they go in there and milk me cuz they can't milk my broker referral..

Since i have had a few big brokers in my account doing $10k a month each.. I worked hard to get those accounts, and now its taken away right when i quit my job too

Im so fucked

[goodsites]

at least every three months, broker must provide Medley with at least one new affiliate who also receives a minimum $50 in Commissions per pay period.

Enuff said... The only fine print needed to be read and understood..

In other words.. say goodbye to all your broker account, cuz you know you aint getting any new affiliates anymore