CCBill you should notify us once... - GoFuckYourself.com

MrDeiz · 06-16-2010, 11:08 PM

Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
- multiple redirects;
- account grouping;
- payout rate or type;
- trial and recurring rebills;
- partner bonus program;
- default landing page for the link;
- cookie length.

With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
- account grouping status;
- cookie length;
- partner bonus program.

Please consider this.

nickutis · 06-16-2010, 11:13 PM

+1 from me

Brujah · 06-16-2010, 11:25 PM

Agree

mmcfadden · 06-16-2010, 11:32 PM

Just talk with paul, he will set u straight as right.

Funny though, I asked for months why denials were not accurate and all I got was...

MrDeiz · 06-16-2010, 11:35 PM

one more thing - if a program adds Epoch or Segpay billing into cascade

mmcfadden · 06-16-2010, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

one more thing - if a program adds Epoch or Segpay billing into cascade

Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

Nasty · 06-16-2010, 11:42 PM

100% agree

MrDeiz · 06-16-2010, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

agreed
8char

andresss · 06-17-2010, 12:31 AM

+5 for me

Black Ops · 06-17-2010, 05:46 AM

Their chat support is a mess. Before I didn't know about the effect of grouping and ungrouping for affiliates. They told me it was OK to change with no problem. Later I found out it messed up affiliates.

darksoul · 06-17-2010, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

Why do you keep spreading your misinformation on the boards ?
Ccbill allows cascading with other billers and you will get credited for every sale.

FreeCJ · 06-17-2010, 05:56 AM

Quote:

CCBill you should notify us once...

I fully agree with this!

Kolargol · 06-17-2010, 06:00 AM

You do get credit for epoch sales in the cascade.

seeandsee · 06-17-2010, 06:06 AM

anybody form ccbill to activate my aff. account?

CCBill Paul · 06-17-2010, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
- multiple redirects;
- account grouping;
- payout rate or type;
- trial and recurring rebills;
- partner bonus program;
- default landing page for the link;
- cookie length.

With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
- account grouping status;
- cookie length;
- partner bonus program.

Please consider this.

Thank you for the suggestion. We will certainly see if this is something we can add to the system.

kristin · 06-17-2010, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.

rabbit · 06-17-2010, 09:12 AM

ccbill, please consider this!

MrDeiz · 06-17-2010, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Why do u care what cascade is involved? If any u aint getting credit unless affiliate tracking, ie nats, is in place.

There is WAY bigger issues then what is concerning u

sorry, didn't read this post carefully. i meant i don't ask for notifying about changes in billing anymore, because it doesn't matter that much for webmaster how billings are set into ccbill cascade. webmaster gets credit for that, so np if owner decides to do some tests with them. haven't seen any issue with that yet

signupdamnit · 06-17-2010, 10:15 AM

I agree but a lot of these have been requested for years. I'll be pleasantly surprised if they ever appear.

Argos88 · 06-17-2010, 10:15 AM

Totally agree, CCBILL gives us no information to affiliates.. Their system is made so Merchants and Sponsors can do a lot of things and hide that info to us affiliates.

I don't like that.

.

TheDA · 06-17-2010, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88

Totally agree, CCBILL gives us no information to affiliates.. Their system is made so Merchants and Sponsors can do a lot of things and hide that info to us affiliates.

I don't like that.

.

Like what?

mmcfadden · 06-17-2010, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin

LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.

Maybe your right. But this is what was explained to me straight from ccbill. They pass the info on to new biller and then they are done. So is this new? Only work with with epoch?

Don't lol and then not say how it is working bc I def. was told to the contrary.

mmcfadden · 06-18-2010, 04:44 AM

Bump for explanation on this affiliate cascading payout

Dirty Dane · 06-18-2010, 04:48 AM

Fully agree.

Plus this: When a program/paysite is taken offline/stop using ccbill.

TeenCat · 06-18-2010, 05:37 AM

now look at daizzzy ... what a good job he is doing ... but yeah, fucking russian scammers

keep it up man!

tonyparra · 06-18-2010, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul

Thank you for the suggestion. We will certainly see if this is something we can add to the system.

Um that comment says it all, all of you fucktards who blast daizzzy should stfu now, these are valid suggestions.

TheDA · 06-18-2010, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

Webmasters should be notified by email once program they are promoting changes status of:
- multiple redirects;
- account grouping;
- payout rate or type;
- trial and recurring rebills;
- partner bonus program;
- default landing page for the link;
- cookie length.

With sending what exactly was changed from previous settings (it'll be impossible to track it correct if you'll only send 'something was changed')

Please make available for webmasters into admin info on:
- account grouping status;
- cookie length;
- partner bonus program.

Please consider this.

From a 'suggestions request' thread started by CCBill back in 2006.

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

You may get some mad but it is only smart and a expected business move on ccbill's behalf to bring your system up to todays standards. Some additional affiliate tools that can be used by site owners in their affiliate areas only makes sense. So does a stats feed for the affiliates.

I to would love to see less or no java.
A move away from cookies would be great, if you can defeat any scumware affiliate code swaps even better.
Maybe an affiliate alert system in the event someone takes their site down or removes ccbill.

great suggestions/points, ASM and everybody else, i like this one especially:

Maybe an affiliate alert system in the event someone takes their site down or removes ccbill

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCBill Paul

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike

1. How about remove the option for the paysite owner to turn off rebills.. or have it email the affiliate if that has happened.

2. Figure out a way to give the affiliate credit when a customer buys a cross sale within the network you are promoting

1. We'll certainly consider this.

mmcfadden · 06-18-2010, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul

Why do you keep spreading your misinformation on the boards ?
Ccbill allows cascading with other billers and you will get credited for every sale.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristin

LOL ... you have no clue what you are talking about.

Not to keep beating this horse but o'rly?

This is my experience with cascading? I used to have my own user management. CCbill would write to my user management on approvals, cancellations, etc. I wanted to add more billers. I was told very clearly that CCbill just passes the info on and that was that. The reason is I was concerned how my user management system would be updated. So obviously my question was 1) does the other biller post back to you (ccbill) and then you (ccbill) update my user management or 2) does the other biller need to write to my user management?

So, the answer to my question was.....

We just pass the info on and are done with it.

Now, is this just not true? If it is true because affiliates are the most important part of this equation the other biller posts back to ccbill regarding the sale to give affiliate the credit but can't post back so ccbill updates my user management?

Clearly I think a LOL and I have no clue should be explained in a little more detail because I don't believe it. Maybe epoch and ccbill have an arrangement but what about the other 30 +/- billers commonly used?

mmcfadden · 06-18-2010, 07:29 PM

give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.

Tanker · 06-18-2010, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.

I believe it passes the Affiliate ID to the cascading biller and if the sale goes through the notification is made back to CCBill to credit the affiliates account with the sale.

This is how it was recently explained to me. However it was not from a CCBill rep

mmcfadden · 06-19-2010, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanker

I believe it passes the Affiliate ID to the cascading biller and if the sale goes through the notification is made back to CCBill to credit the affiliates account with the sale.

This is how it was recently explained to me. However it was not from a CCBill rep

i really like chocolate shakes!!

I would luv to hear the two peeps from the original convo...

Trax · 06-19-2010, 12:51 AM

i also think this is a MUST implement.

leg4 · 06-19-2010, 01:27 AM

CCBILL hasn't updated anything for a long fucking long...

They have a Web .5 design

TheDA · 06-19-2010, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden

give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller.

my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.

As long as the sponsor is using the correct cascade cgi structure then affiliates get credit for sales with other specific billers in their cascade. That's what i was told when they started it out.

rowan · 06-19-2010, 06:45 AM

I'm not holding my breath either, it's been a few years since affiliates finally got to see rebill configuration info. Making that info available caught out a few programs...

Maybe in 2015

2MuchMark · 06-19-2010, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Ops

Their chat support is a mess. Before I didn't know about the effect of grouping and ungrouping for affiliates. They told me it was OK to change with no problem. Later I found out it messed up affiliates.

I've never had problems with their chat support. They were always available and answered all my questions quickly.

mmcfadden · 06-19-2010, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

I've never had problems with their chat support. They were always available and answered all my questions quickly.

quickly and in-efficiently

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Argos88 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,732	Totally agree, CCBILL gives us no information to affiliates.. Their system is made so Merchants and Sponsors can do a lot of things and hide that info to us affiliates. I don't like that. .

06-18-2010, 04:44 AM	#23
mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	Bump for explanation on this affiliate cascading payout

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mmcfadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: philly Posts: 5,099	give me notification once cascading works... wtf is this. 2 people called me out and I am saying bull sheat to it... there is no affiliate credit going on unless it is new and with select biller. my statement stands homie, you will not get credit for cascading sales unless the sponsor uses a "legit" tracking system, i.e. nats.

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