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Old 07-24-2004, 05:06 PM   #1
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Can GFY and the Adult Industry change outcome of the Presidential Election?

Just sitting here thinking that the majority of us in here would prefer Kerry win for obvious reasons.

My question is with the amount of people we reach on a daily basis, couldn?t we help educate the customers buying our products that voting to re-elect the current president would limit their ability to have the porn they are probably currently looking at?

I am surprised that with the power this industry has, we are not doing more to raise awareness of how difficult the current administrations is making it to provide the customer with what they want. I bet the majority of the surfers looking at our sites and buying our products have no idea what the current administration is doing to their ability to get our products?.

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Old 07-24-2004, 05:18 PM   #2
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We just need to create a site with some basic info and all link to it. Something just like this with some info about "the adult industry'

http://www.kerry.com
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Old 07-24-2004, 05:26 PM   #3
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Would be cool, but I doubt the industry has that much influence. Most people have more important problems than porn, it's about social issues, taxes, health.

The industry may have grown up, but let's face it, a grown up black sheep stays a black sheep.
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Old 07-24-2004, 05:27 PM   #4
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That's the smartest thing I have heard anyone say all day.

My feelings mutual.Everyone is crying about Bush but no one is really using thier brains.Do you have any idea what kind of power the adult industry has,how many freakin porn followers???

Yes,we need to let the end-users in on what is happening with the industry.

Everyone should have a anti-Bush button on thier websites if they care to continue in the adult industry.Let the world know about Ashhahahahaha.This industry can gather millions of peoples attention instantly.

Make a difference!!!!
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Old 07-24-2004, 05:30 PM   #5
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If whole online porn industry is clearly against Bush and Ashhaaa, when they win, they will destroy it all.
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Other than the fact that Kerry is not Dubya, why should he be elected? What real reasons are there for his election?
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I have to ask what indication you have that Kerry will do anything different to help our cause?

I think you are kidding yourself if you think Kerry is going to start some program that is going to benefit the adult industry
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I think that would be a good Idea at the end of a video :
Did you enjoy watching this video or looking at our site. We are glad you made the decision to view our product. We think as a adult you have that right to enjoy adult products in the privacy of your own home. Well the current admin thinks adults shouldnt have this right and that they know better on what you should be able to view as a adult. So make the decision to vote so the government doesnt make your decisions for you.

It would be great but most would be afraid it would make you a target.
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I don't think it is a matter if what Kerry will do, it's more of an issue of what the current administration is doing now. No one working for Kerry has come out and said anything close to the things about porn that aaassssscroffffft has said. It just does not seem to be a top priority of the Kerry administration as it has always been from the start of the current one.
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There are some bigger issues at play than us.

Comes down to Electoral Votes! The center of the country and some south goes to the Republicans for the most part. The coastal states go to the Democrats. The last election was actually within the margin of error. It was for the most part a tie. Argue all you want, it was a statistical tie on the popular vote. Then it came to the Supreme Court where a tie is impossible. We?re are not gonna change the minds of the bible thumpers of the mid states and the liberal states are equally as set in their ways. BTW, Bush won more states.

Can we make a little difference, sure!! Does a little difference count, you bet your ass! Look at Florida! So change 300 votes in Illinois for example and that could be a swing state!
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Other than the fact that Kerry is not Dubya, why should he be elected? What real reasons are there for his election?
If you really like working in adult , you really dont have a choice. Its really that simple.
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edit all samples and put a picture of kerry every 20 frames
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I don't think it is a matter if what Kerry will do, it's more of an issue of what the current administration is doing now.
I guess I missed something . . . what has the current administration done?
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I don't think it is a matter if what Kerry will do, it's more of an issue of what the current administration is doing now. No one working for Kerry has come out and said anything close to the things about porn that aaassssscroffffft has said. It just does not seem to be a top priority of the Kerry administration as it has always been from the start of the current one.

Historically the most porn convicts happen during Republican admins. Democrats arent pro porn , its just not on the top of their lists.
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If you really like working in adult , you really dont have a choice. Its really that simple.
baaaa . . . . why is that?
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I think that would be a good Idea at the end of a video :
Did you enjoy watching this video or looking at our site. We are glad you made the decision to view our product. We think as a adult you have that right to enjoy adult products in the privacy of your own home. Well the current admin thinks adults shouldnt have this right and that they know better on what you should be able to view as a adult. So make the decision to vote so the government doesnt make your decisions for you.

It would be great but most would be afraid it would make you a target.
Along the lines of what I was thinking. Or at least a link to a third party web site that people can find out some information and register.
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I guess I missed something . . . what has the current administration done?
911 slowed them down you dont see they are gearing up. Your kidding me right?
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I guess I missed something . . . what has the current administration done?
You must be kidding....
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Yes.


But it probably wont happen.
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911 slowed them down you dont see they are gearing up. Your kidding me right?
what has changed? why do they have more time or money now to waste on shutting you down?

what exactly is it that you fear they are going to do? why do you think this?

don't give me some vague, bullshit answer, be specific.
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no, I am not . . .what have they done?
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no, I am not . . .what have they done?


http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...57+regulations


http://www.independent-media.tv/item...ig%20Broth er


http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive...mong072404.htm


http://www.adultvideonews.com/legal/leg1002_01.html


The list goes on and on... and it's just beginning.
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http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia...iamanuals.html

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia...m/usab5202.pdf
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what has changed? why do they have more time or money now to waste on shutting you down?

what exactly is it that you fear they are going to do? why do you think this?

don't give me some vague, bullshit answer, be specific.

Ok , going after Rob Black in Pittsburg. Bringing COPA back to the supreme court after they already shot it down. The new changes to 2257, they are a cluster fuck waiting to happen.
The man covers justices tits with cloth for a cost of 8,000 dollars.
The feds work slow and then they hit hard. They owe the christian right big time, w promised them to do something about porn . I hope I am wrong and you are right I really do because If I am right lives will be ruined and its not fair will not be a defense. Online porn has been the wild west , people would say we have to police ourselves. People would say fuck them I can do whatever I want from over the top subject matter to filling peoples email boxes with graphic spam when they didnt ask for it. Now they will tame the wild west.

Most people prefer to be blind, when Hustler has stars covering anything graphic on their tours. If people were smart it should make them think. HMMM Larry who has the greatest first amend lawyer in the world and millions of dollars to fight decides to not be on the fringe . Maybe Larry sees something coming that I dont.
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Why not make money with this ?

Maybe the KerryClan will pay for pageviews in member areas.
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Why not make money with this ?

Maybe the KerryClan will pay for pageviews in member areas.

I'm sure the GOP & their god-posse would loooooove that.
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If you really like working in adult , you really dont have a choice. Its really that simple.


I am terribly sorry if you truly believe that.
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I am terribly sorry if you truly believe that.

You livingnot in the real world, if you are going to waste your vote on a party that will never win or on a party that wants to get rid of your industry. If you dont like working in adult then dont worry about it .
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You livingnot in the real world, if you are going to waste your vote on a party that will never win or on a party that wants to get rid of your industry. If you dont like working in adult then dont worry about it .
If my vote is wasted, then so be it. At least it didn't go to support a two-party system whose time needs to be drawn to a close.

I love working in the adult industry, which one of the reasons I sure the fuck am not voting for Dubya. Maybe I'm a strange one, but I don't fall into the "lesser of two evils" bit.

Now. Why should I vote for Kerry? And please don't come back with the whole "anybody but Bush" crap; I've heard it. I want to know what good things John Kerry has done, and not just for this industry.

(No anger towards you, tony, none at all. Just looking for answers to my questions.)
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It's a tough call to make:

Is it a compromise of one's ideals to pursue the course of action MOST LIKELY to advance the cause -- even if not immediately?

Kerry over Bush, because that's the better of the available choices?

I say, yeah.

Though I'm uninspired by the man, the threats posed by a second Bush term are too great for us to quibble over Kerry's qualifications or his stance on pornography, or what actions he may or may not undertake on behalf of our industry.

The changes we have seen to our culture -- the organized propagation of fear, the erosion of our civil liberties -- have certainly been contributed to by the Bush administration. Who can deny that they have taken shameless advantage of 9/11 (and the ensuing national confusion) to direct our hatred toward's arbitrary enemies. The most frightening thing I see is the sudden re-awakening of our capacity to look at each other with suspicion. It feels like only yesterday we were laughing with self-embarrasmant at the "silly" things McCarthyism did to this country in the fifties. Yet, here we are -- AGAIN.

Yes, we must fight our fight in the political arena -- to preserve our livelihoods, stay out of jail and protect freedom of expression. But, we have to be smart about it. The country is in the clutches of a power that is equating pornographers with terrorists, just because we pose a "threat". It does not matter that our threat arrives through broadband connections and wrapped in plain-brown paper wrappers.

My decision to vote for John Kerry is cold and unemotional -- it is rational. I would like to be inspired by a presidential candidate again someday. But I accept that in politics, like in life, sometimes you have to push something out of the away before you can move in the right direction.

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911 slowed them down you dont see they are gearing up. Your kidding me right?
Yes actually on 9-11-2001 Ashhahahahaha was SUPPOSED to annoucne a HUGE crackdown on porn. Not CP but regular porn on the internet specifically. Bush and Ashhahahahaha are so stupid not to realize that most of the advances in internet( specifically technology )were because of porn. if you watche Frontlines' show on this you find out how serious Bush and Ashhahahahaha are about "cleaning up" the net. Did you know that durring Clinton's term ZERO indictments for porn( regualr porn that is ) were handed down. ZERO.
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Thoughts ?.Solutions...
Its a nice thought to have but lets get serious............we have as much chance of influencing things on GFY as pigs do of leading a revolt against bacon consumption.


Just get out and vote. And vote Democrat.
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hw serious is everyone taking the new 2257 enforcement,its almost impossible to comply,not to mention the privacy issues for the talent?
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Other than the fact that Kerry is not Dubya, why should he be elected? What real reasons are there for his election?
I would have thought that was reason enough.

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I have to ask what indication you have that Kerry will do anything different to help our cause?

I think you are kidding yourself if you think Kerry is going to start some program that is going to benefit the adult industry
But will he set out to destroy us?

The lesser of two evils?

With what is going on with the new rules on 2257, any American porn operator who votes for Bush and Ashc roft needs their head examined. Doubt if it would lose a single surfer though, just means more money for us in the Free East to pick up if they get re-elected.
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hw serious is everyone taking the new 2257 enforcement,its almost impossible to comply,not to mention the privacy issues for the talent?
It's serious because you can go to prison. Ashhahahahaha doesn't WANT you to comply he wants you to go out of business. PERIOD.
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wow.

You, HomeVideos, are my hero.

To everyone who said we can't make a difference here at GFY:

We don't need to convince the whole country to vote for kerry. We don't even need to convince all of our surfers. If it's going to be a close race like last time, influencing as little as 5% of porn surfers may sway the election towards Kerry.

Before posting this, I almosted registered a domain and started working on a simple .org site explaining why kerry > bush (With mentions of the adult industry) and I was planning to then ask people to link to it.

But then I realised, that Most of you don't know me, so trust may be an issue. So it'd really be better if one of the bigger players here would do it.

I'll wait a couple of days, and if I don't see something up or cooking, I'll make it anyway. Because I believe that we can make a difference.
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I've never thought goverments have much effect on employment, that's down to business. The US economy is recovering from a lull in spite of Bush, not becasue of him and it would be the same under Kerry.

What might happen under Kerry is more money will go into t he pockets of the less well off, the guys we earn our living from.

But what is certain is he will do less to harm this industry in the US than Bush. the changes to 2257 are just the start trust me. Next will be the posting of your address on your site, then who knows what next.
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Its a nice thought to have but lets get serious............we have as much chance of influencing things on GFY as pigs do of leading a revolt against bacon consumption.


Just get out and vote. And vote Democrat.
Now we CAN change things we reach MILLION of surfers every day. In 2000 eight states were decided by 8000 votes or less. 2 states by less than 600 votes. No we aren;t going to change Bush lvoers minds and no those that vote on other issues this will have very little effect, but what about the guy who normally doesn't vote or might not vote? What about the guy who is undecided? Maybe this is the thing that will cmake up his mind. it doesn't have to be a HUGE % either. Just 1% or 2% of our traffic voting for Kerry that normally would have for whatever reason would be enough to swing the election Kerry way.

Hey as soon as Augst 24th gets here and the new 2257 rules apply hardcore pics are soming off my sites and I'll explain why it's Bush's fault.
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it's late, and this may be a completely ass-brained idea, but...

what about a voter-registration campaign? there are plenty of people out there who still aren't registered to vote for one reason or another - how many of them do you think would consider registering (i know some states can do it online) if they were offered, say, a free month's membership somewhere? (proof required, of course, and only one free month per person)

this may not be legal - i can't imagine why it wouldn't be, but you never know.
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What might happen under Kerry is more money will go into t he pockets of the less well off, the guys we earn our living from.

yeah, all kinds of welfare folk are buying online porn . . . idiot
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Old 07-25-2004, 12:50 AM   #43
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i think putting "vote for kerry if you like porn" at the footer of every pic/video might help out. Of course nobody would do it but still
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Old 07-25-2004, 12:52 AM   #44
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this may not be legal - i can't imagine why it wouldn't be, but you never know.
not illegal . . . . pretty hard to verify though
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Old 07-25-2004, 01:02 AM   #45
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i think putting "vote for kerry if you like porn" at the footer of every pic/video might help out. Of course nobody would do it but still
I think a little explaination and how Bush is looking to take a surfer right of CHOICE away is more effective. "Bush will take away you porn" is just not as effective as "Bush will take away your rights"
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Old 07-25-2004, 06:25 AM   #46
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edit all samples and put a picture of kerry every 20 frames
soviet style
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Old 09-02-2004, 12:12 AM   #49
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guys come to our sites to jerk off etc not to get political advice

just like howard stern means shit when it comes to votes

hes great for entertainment for some but please he can say whatever he weants the people who listen to him who would be convinced by him either way are mostlikly not voters anyway
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Old 09-02-2004, 01:28 AM   #50
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Porn surfers won't really give a fuck, because they'll just surf porn on foreign sites that don't have to cpmply with USC 2257 provisions...they'll still get their porn and don't really care who gives it to them....

One reason I'm voting for Kerry is that with him in the White House, with a Republican controlled house and senate is that it will reult in a lot of gridlock and that gridlock will help fringe industries like us to grow...

Another reason more closer to home is the Yucca Mountain issue. Kerry has promised to look into it more with more evidence available then when it was first decided to fuck Nevada and dump the nations nuclear waste. The reason this issue affects more than just Nevadans is all of the states that nuclear waste is coming through on trains. Yucca Mountain won't be as big a terrorist target, IMHO, as the states where the train tracks are....why go after the repository when more damage is to be down on the route there...

I admit, this is a close one to call for me...Kerry is admittedly getting my anybody but Bush and Nader vote, but if Bush were to get rid of A*hcr*ft, it might be enough to swing my vote the other direction, but it would probably lose him votes from the religious right that he neds much more than my piddly ass vote.

If you really want to make a difference, get out and vote in your local elections. Pay more attention to local issues and get things resolved on a local level.
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