I'm hearing bad things about I-Bill through the grapevine. - GoFuckYourself.com

Rick Latona · 09-21-2004, 11:25 AM

I'm hearing bad things about I-Bill through the grapevine. Anyone else?

GonZo · 09-21-2004, 11:27 AM

Visa has left the building!!!

Rick Latona · 09-21-2004, 11:28 AM

I can neither confirm nor deny the rumors so I don't want to state them hear and start shit. I was just wondering if anyone else has heard bad news today.

Krille · 09-21-2004, 11:28 AM

Yeah, I heard it as well, saw a thread about it at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=359766&s=

crockett · 09-21-2004, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm hearing bad things about I-Bill through the grapevine. Anyone else?

lol well even if they didn't before, they are now..

Rick btw I was wondering if you saw that e-mail I sent you a week or two ago. had some info on your galleries you should check out.

Tom_PMs · 09-21-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Krille
Yeah, I heard it as well, saw a thread about it at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=359766&s=

lol, you got me stuck in an endless loop...

Rick Latona · 09-21-2004, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by crockett
lol well even if they didn't before, they are now..

Rick btw I was wondering if you saw that e-mail I sent you a week or two ago. had some info on your galleries you should check out.

No actually. rick at dollars.com. Please resend.

stev0 · 09-21-2004, 11:34 AM

I heard it switched ownership and was doing better? maybe i'm out of the loop.

Tipsy · 09-21-2004, 11:35 AM

Is this a good time to grab a spot for a stonking sig?

Not holding my breath about it but'll be intersting to see if anything does popup.

Rick Latona · 09-21-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by stev0
I heard it switched ownership and was doing better? maybe i'm out of the loop.

I think you may be.

crockett · 09-21-2004, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
No actually. rick at dollars.com. Please resend.

ok it's resent

BigWebRev · 09-21-2004, 11:45 AM

how do rumors get started.......

SteveLightspeed · 09-21-2004, 11:45 AM

Hey Rick, its time for another Panama adventure bro. Lets hook it up!

Steve Lightspeed

Rich · 09-21-2004, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by Tom_PM
lol, you got me stuck in an endless loop...

lol

MattO · 09-21-2004, 11:46 AM

My inside sources tell me things are getting a little better for them today, compared to over the last week.

WiredGuy · 09-21-2004, 11:49 AM

I heard a rumour as well about them today. I hope its not true.
WG

.:St Ides:. · 09-21-2004, 11:51 AM

I also heard a rumor... Makes you wonder, time to look into someone a lil more inside

Dugmor · 09-21-2004, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
Hey Rick, its time for another Panama adventure bro. Lets hook it up!

Steve Lightspeed

Plane ticket bought....... I will set up the camp and do some scouting !

crockett · 09-21-2004, 11:57 AM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=359780&s=

maybe this could be it?

SmokeyTheBear · 09-21-2004, 11:59 AM

only if by bad things you mean teaming up with the industry leader in the future of online billing

DUOCASH.COM

Manowar · 09-21-2004, 12:02 PM

Havent heard anything about this yet

Rick Latona · 09-21-2004, 12:03 PM

I just had a good conversation with someone from over there. I'm glad I didn't post the rumor. I think all is well.

MetaformX · 09-21-2004, 12:17 PM

I hope all is well...I am just about to sign up with them.

Screaming · 09-21-2004, 12:19 PM

damn man had me scared for a min!

mary34d · 09-21-2004, 12:19 PM

a little bird told me something.

txl · 09-21-2004, 12:30 PM

The rumour is ibill "lost" their merchant account.

first off its not true they didn't lose it. First data has stated months ago it was leaving the processing business for adult/high risk. They dropped card services international right away and ibill has until end of september to find alternative means.

They've already found alternative means to process as have the rest of the other big 3. I'm sure you can expect an announcement on this from them anyday now as the rumours keep flying.

GonZo · 09-21-2004, 12:40 PM

Where did I put my copy of that Spin Doctors album?

fris · 09-21-2004, 12:42 PM

a little bird tole me that mary has nice tits

Johny Traffic · 09-21-2004, 12:42 PM

hope there ok, maybe an announcement from them wouldnt hurt?

SmokeyTheBear · 09-21-2004, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Johny Traffic
hope there ok, maybe an announcement from them wouldnt hurt?

they did...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=359776&s=

nicchick · 09-21-2004, 01:12 PM

I had a check due from them on Aug.22nd-
It never showed up. I e-mailed them - No reply
Same deal on Sept. 8th
No check. I e-mailed them- No reply.
WTF ???
Their customer service doesn't suck - it's non-existent.

Shap · 09-21-2004, 01:20 PM

I wouldn't put too much weight on rumours that are being started by ibill's competition.

tony286 · 09-21-2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by nicchick
I had a check due from them on Aug.22nd-
It never showed up. I e-mailed them - No reply
Same deal on Sept. 8th
No check. I e-mailed them- No reply.
WTF ???
Their customer service doesn't suck - it's non-existent.

Why dont you pick up a phone and call them ?

AaronM · 09-21-2004, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
I can neither confirm nor deny the rumors so I don't want to state them hear and start shit. I was just wondering if anyone else has heard bad news today.

Yep...But the last time I posted a similar thread....I got bashed so I decided to keep it to myself this time.

WiredGuy · 09-21-2004, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM
Yep...But the last time I posted a similar thread....I got bashed so I decided to keep it to myself this time.

Brujah · 09-21-2004, 01:23 PM

ooooh i bet you wonder how I knew..

Brad Mitchell · 09-21-2004, 01:26 PM

Just placed my market order to sell my PHSL shares.

Brad

Rick Latona · 09-21-2004, 01:35 PM

I'm sure they have a back up plan. And I'm even more sure that I'm going to be slammed for posting this.

Evidence 1

evidence 2

24. This restraint has particular urgency in light of devastating effect that First Data?s actions are likely to have on iBill?s business. Indeed, without such an order iBill will likely lose its business in the next few days. Thus, iBill will be irreparably harmed unless the Court orders a temporary restraining order.

XPays · 09-21-2004, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm sure they have a back up plan. And I'm even more sure that I'm going to be slammed for posting this.

Evidence 1

evidence 2

24. This restraint has particular urgency in light of devastating effect that First Data?s actions are likely to have on iBill?s business. Indeed, without such an order iBill will likely lose its business in the next few days. Thus, iBill will be irreparably harmed unless the Court orders a temporary restraining order.

were those documents publicly available? how did you acquire them?

XPays · 09-21-2004, 01:47 PM

evidence2 looks public- but was evidence 1 also public?

XPays · 09-21-2004, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm hearing bad things about I-Bill through the grapevine. Anyone else?

it looks more like the bad things are about first data

Rick Latona · 09-21-2004, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by XPays
it looks more like the bad things are about first data

I hope you are right. From the looks of it, First Data deserves some heat.

WiredGuy · 09-21-2004, 02:02 PM

Based on the first document you linked to, I'm quite interested in knowing if ccBill and Paycom have already found alternatives or if they're trying to get a TRO on First Data as well.

WG

BossDVDs · 09-21-2004, 02:03 PM

Here's the latest .. IBill's CEO just told First Data's CEO:

"You wanna waste my time? Okay. I call my lawyer. He's the best lawyer in Miami. He's such a good lawyer, that by tomorrow morning, you gonna be working in Alaska. So dress warm."

MickeyG · 09-21-2004, 02:03 PM

So the documents say the agreement expired on Sept 15th, but today is the 20th and they're still processing transactions. Did they get in injunction? How are they still processing?

Rick Latona · 09-21-2004, 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Based on the first document you linked to, I'm quite interested in knowing if ccBill and Paycom have already found alternatives or if they're trying to get a TRO on First Data as well.

WG

Do they also use First Data?

WiredGuy · 09-21-2004, 02:06 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Do they also use First Data?

There was only a small handful of providers for high risk and adult. I'm not sure, hence why I'd like to know if the other IPSP's are using First Data for their acquiring banks or alternatives.

WG

CamJack · 09-21-2004, 02:06 PM

Ibill has been a little choppy but our tech guys have been working very closely with them over the past week and everything will be fine. Our cascading billing checks every 5 minutes and flips to CCBILL when needed. So our business isn't hurt at all right now.

As frustrating as times like these are, jumping to conclusions and spreading false rumors is not only unethical, but at times illegal.

Chris Mallick · 09-21-2004, 02:08 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Do they also use First Data?

Paycom does not process any transactions through or with First Data or First Financial Bank. We moved several months ago as we, along with all processors and Merchants were told they were getting out of Adult.

Paycom / EPOCH?s banking is stronger now than ever.

Once again, everyone should have a back up; anything can happen.

C

WiredGuy · 09-21-2004, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Mallick
Paycom does not process any transactions through or with First Data or First Financial Bank. We moved several months ago as we, along with all processors and Merchants were told they were getting out of Adult.

Paycom / EPOCH?s banking is stronger now than ever.

Once again, everyone should have a back up; anything can happen.

C

Good stuff Chris

WG

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Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	I can neither confirm nor deny the rumors so I don't want to state them hear and start shit. I was just wondering if anyone else has heard bad news today. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	I just had a good conversation with someone from over there. I'm glad I didn't post the rumor. I think all is well. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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txl Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Jersey Posts: 75	The rumour is ibill "lost" their merchant account. first off its not true they didn't lose it. First data has stated months ago it was leaving the processing business for adult/high risk. They dropped card services international right away and ibill has until end of september to find alternative means. They've already found alternative means to process as have the rest of the other big 3. I'm sure you can expect an announcement on this from them anyday now as the rumours keep flying.

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09-21-2004, 01:35 PM	#38
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	I'm sure they have a back up plan. And I'm even more sure that I'm going to be slammed for posting this. Evidence 1 evidence 2 24. This restraint has particular urgency in light of devastating effect that First Data?s actions are likely to have on iBill?s business. Indeed, without such an order iBill will likely lose its business in the next few days. Thus, iBill will be irreparably harmed unless the Court orders a temporary restraining order. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,371	Based on the first document you linked to, I'm quite interested in knowing if ccBill and Paycom have already found alternatives or if they're trying to get a TRO on First Data as well. WG __________________ I play with Google.

09-21-2004, 02:03 PM	#44
BossDVDs Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 835	Here's the latest .. IBill's CEO just told First Data's CEO: "You wanna waste my time? Okay. I call my lawyer. He's the best lawyer in Miami. He's such a good lawyer, that by tomorrow morning, you gonna be working in Alaska. So dress warm." __________________

09-21-2004, 02:03 PM	#45
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	So the documents say the agreement expired on Sept 15th, but today is the 20th and they're still processing transactions. Did they get in injunction? How are they still processing?

09-21-2004, 02:06 PM	#48
CamJack Old School Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NY Posts: 1,334	Ibill has been a little choppy but our tech guys have been working very closely with them over the past week and everything will be fine. Our cascading billing checks every 5 minutes and flips to CCBILL when needed. So our business isn't hurt at all right now. As frustrating as times like these are, jumping to conclusions and spreading false rumors is not only unethical, but at times illegal. __________________ Skype: promote.promote [email protected]