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Old 12-09-2004, 01:56 PM   #1
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Search sex.com for "Lightspeed"

And it goes to a link for ASACP? What a CROCK OF SHIT!

Does anyone else think ASACP should be staffed by an elected committee? Industry politics within the current committee seems to be clouding their judgement and wasting their resources. Maybe they could focus on their real goal of removing CP from the net?

Has anyone else had enough of these assclowns running ASACP?

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Old 12-09-2004, 02:01 PM   #6
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Holy shit, search for Tawnee Stone and see what you get as well.

Probably the same for the rest of your models.

That's a pretty dirty trick.
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I could be wrong - but that can be a default page if there are no paid listings for the keywords.

I tried Tawnee Stone and got the same page, however Jordan Capri gave me something else - not the same page - just that 'nothing was found' and other links. Have you contacted them to see if this is the case or if it's an automatic word that can't be bid on?

Maybe ASACP is bidding on the keyword?
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This practice is rather unfair of sex.com to do. A search for "child porn" on sex.com gives as a result the ASACP. That's fair. But labelling searches such as "tawnee stone" or "lightspeed" into the same category as CP is totally uncalled for Gary.

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hahha Steve search Tawnee Stone

you get ASACP


that traffic is worthless anyways!
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Old 12-09-2004, 02:08 PM   #14
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Thats a shitty thing to do without a doubt. Even more shitty then the traffic coming out of there lately.
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Maybe ASACP is bidding on the keyword?

I doubt that sex.com and ASCAP are in bed together



beside that I dont know many people that get sales out of that traffic


does anyone here get sales from that traffic?
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I could be wrong - but that can be a default page if there are no paid listings for the keywords.

I tried Tawnee Stone and got the same page, however Jordan Capri gave me something else - not the same page - just that 'nothing was found' and other links. Have you contacted them to see if this is the case or if it's an automatic word that can't be bid on?

Maybe ASACP is bidding on the keyword?
Searching for Jordan gave me all sorts of irrelevant links. Searching for Tawnee and Lightspeed listed one site, ASACP.

There's no way that was a mistake.
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We have sent them Real CP stuff, and get a letter back saying nothing they can do about it it is art or some shit...
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Say... when Jennifer Granholm, the AG of Michigan went on her witch hunt a few years ago and went after Lightspeed and about 10 other program owners with teen content (I can't remember who all she went after)... if anyone remembers the company names or featured models, what happens if you plug in their names?
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Searching for Jordan gave me all sorts of irrelevant links. Searching for Tawnee and Lightspeed listed one site, ASACP.

There's no way that was a mistake.

Yeah I dont think so either I am sure they put that together!
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I doubt that sex.com and ASCAP are in bed together



beside that I dont know many people that get sales out of that traffic


does anyone here get sales from that traffic?
I have gotten sales from that traffic. However that traffic is hot and cold. And when its cold its very cold. I have had a few positive campaigns but lately (2 months) its nothing but pure shit.
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Dude that is a whole crack of shit.

I agree we need an organisation like ASCAP but it should be made of members that are voted by our community.

Gary is a board member of ascap right ? So that does put them in bed together and we all know Steve's story with JOan...

Steve you have a right to be pissed but what can we do about this???
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This practice is rather unfair of sex.com to do. A search for "child porn" on sex.com gives as a result the ASACP. That's fair. But labelling searches such as "tawnee stone" or "lightspeed" into the same category as CP is totally uncalled for Gary.

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I agree, an industry watch dog should always be above politics if it is to be taken seriously. I think that is a major hurdle this biz needs to get over. Some voices need to be impartial and above politics and sponsorship dollars if we are going to ever be taken as a legitimate industry.
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So dose this mean they are buying traffic from sex.com using your sites names? Or is it some sex.com screw up? If they are paying for those search terms and directing it at their site, I think I'd sick my lawyers on them.
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Hey Steve on a side note if you search the mis spells things work ok it seems.


Tawney Stone- went striaght to your stuff.
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I can never get behind them the way they act I have heard they things they have called people in the past


there should be a Non Profit Org that is has its board members voted in


then it might hold some weight with the adult community
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kremen is on the board of asacp and there are some definiate conflics/agendas there with personal politics

i would be pissed if i were you, joan needs to address this with sex.com
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Interesing but I don't think it harms the Lightspeed company in any way.

If a surfer wants to join Tawnee Stone, he will join it regardless of what link sex.com is displaying as a search result on their page.
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Hey Steve on a side note if you search the mis spells things work ok it seems.


Tawney Stone- went striaght to your stuff.

Thats only because they didn't realize it yet I bet it will all dissapear now
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you are kidding me, right? I don't think I have ever been to a sex.com party that Joan did not attend. Gary is on the board.
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So dose this mean they are buying traffic from sex.com using your sites names? Or is it some sex.com screw up? If they are paying for those search terms and directing it at their site, I think I'd sick my lawyers on them.

Thats no screwup, they Garry and Joan will not even let steve donate to thier cause when he tried a few years ago
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you are kidding me, right? I don't think I have ever been to a sex.com party that Joan did not attend. Gary is on the board.

Baddog my bad I ment to put a , in there


I doubt that, Sex.com and ASACP are in bed together!
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Looks like Rachel: http://tour.rachel18.com/indexnp2.php?r=typein

But I remember they were selling her content a while back.
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Does anyone else think ASACP should be staffed by an elected committee?
With all due respect, elected by whom? People that are in the industry, or people that actually are members?

While I can understand why you are a little pissed, I do believe this is a private organization, expecting that they are going to open up the election of board members to the general public is a little over the top.

Have you tried buying clicks for those search terms?
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I doubt that sex.com and ASCAP are in bed together

beside that I dont know many people that get sales out of that traffic

does anyone here get sales from that traffic?
sex.com isn't a great converter, they feature their links (like Overture) on many "partner" sites. Some are highly questionable. I think they hit a peak with their PPC awhile ago and in the interest of keeping profits high signed on a few partners they maybe shouldn't have.

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