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01-04-2006, 03:49 AM | #1 |
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Yahoo took my hard worked SEO and sold it to an affiliate
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http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=bra...v1-&fl=0&x=wrt Notice the root domain @ #1. That was planned. Then click it: http://tour.brazilbang.com/?nats=MjI0NzoxMDoxMw The spot was sold to an affiliate for what should be a root #1. Yahoo sucks balls. Viva google. |
01-04-2006, 03:50 AM | #2 |
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Yahoo sends over 2000 hits to teeniepalace.com every day. Google about 1/10th that. VIVA YAHOO.
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Did that. Just google didn't sell the spot. |
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01-04-2006, 03:59 AM | #5 |
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I guess that's a solid testimonial for http://www.wildlinecorp.com/ then ?
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Contact the affiliate talk to him and tell him nicely that you won't pay for that traffic. I'm sure you've already considered or done this, but I do agree yahoo selling 'free' spots is fucked up. But shouldn't be a major problem for you.
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01-04-2006, 04:07 AM | #7 |
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The least they could've done is put a sponsored link above and leave the free listing intact. I agree with Chief, contact the affiliate and let him/her know those signups won't be paid for.
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I SEO'ed those sites myself, so we could get the #1 when you search for one of our sites. Wildline had nothing to do with that. Yahoo selling the #1 spots to affiliates is a very fucked up practice though. |
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01-04-2006, 04:10 AM | #9 |
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Let's hope that Google doesn't go the same route Yahoo has gone with selling free spots.
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01-04-2006, 04:11 AM | #10 |
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Why the fuck shouldent he be paid?
You guys are amazingly stupid sometimes. |
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remind me of this thread if Chief or Damagex ever start a program.
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01-04-2006, 04:14 AM | #12 |
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jay i wasn't directing that google optimization thing to you, but to the other guy who mentioned getting 10x traffic from yahoo over google. anyone getting that much MORE traffic from yahoo than google needs to work on their google seo.
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If they were sending to another site I would really be pissed. I'm sure Yahoo has terms about doing that. |
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"I understand Jay's opinion, if wildline is a good affiliate for him it might be in his benefit to just let them have it, but that's for him to decide." I'm not an idiot either, I wouldn't mess with a good affiliate over something like that. |
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I don't fault wildline for taking advantage of this. I fault Yahoo for being greedy scumbags. |
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Good to see that you're pissed at the right person/people/company. I really believe this whole move is going to backfire on Yahoo.
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01-04-2006, 04:41 AM | #22 |
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what makes you think yahoo "sold it". if they did, how do you go about buying the listings? it isnt an overture listing is it?
what do you think about the adwords at on top of your google listing that they sold? Brazil Bang www.BrazilBang.com Sign up for the premier porn site on the web, Brazil Bang!
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01-04-2006, 04:57 AM | #24 |
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I can't believe the ones defending the affiliate. Did Yahoo step in it? Yes. However, if the affiliate is aware of this, he's basically buying stolen goods.
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01-04-2006, 04:58 AM | #25 |
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yahoo is doing that for some time now
they index is not just algo driven jay I sent you a nice url about this via ICQ |
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There is NOTHING preventing Jay from buying them back if it's cost effective and he so desires.
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01-04-2006, 05:14 AM | #27 |
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How come it doesn't indicate that it's a sponsored listing ? How does Yahoo "sell" the #1 spot like that in free listings ? If it's not SEO, and it's sold.. where do you buy them ?
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Get a grip on yourself. I don't care who, how, or why this happened but it does not justify asking an affiliate to stop using the methods or threaten with non-payment. Sadly it is back to the drawing board for Jay, live and learn. But you Chief, and that other fuck, better revise your business plans. |
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01-04-2006, 05:49 AM | #29 | |
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Would I buy ads on something like this, sure! I'd also expect some people to not pay my ass considering how shitty of a traffic method it is. |
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Just tell Yahoo to pull your sites. If you don't like their business practices, why do business with them?
Yahoo dosen't 'OWE' you anything, nor should it be expected. |
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Bad move not to pay an affiliate like that.
Word will spread like wildfire, and I'm sure many people will simply stay away from that sponsor. And please... stolen goods? It's Yahoo's traffic, they can send it and manipulate it in any way they see fit.
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Paid listings getting above "normal" listings is something we know about very well in this industry. Yahoo does it too..
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01-04-2006, 07:33 AM | #36 |
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Holy shit? What's the price for a paid listing? Do they have to pay per click after that as well or is it a fixed price?
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i thought wildline only does paid campaigns? i.e. a sponsor pays wildline $5k and they send 20k uniques through paid spots like that on yahoo.
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Hey btw speaking of yahoo.. what the hell do I have to do to get my number one spot back? Back when they used google's listings I have number one's on both. However when they changed up to using their own.. stuff got all 'F'ed up.. my listing was still number one however if you clicked the link it went to someone else's site. Soon after I was gone, I assumed I got banned, which is BS.. I sent countless e-mails with no replies.. finally a year or so latter I start pulling in hit's from search.yahoo again, but nothing like before. I can't seem to get the site back up to the top like it was before.. Even for it's own domain name other sites take my spot on yahoo and I'm nowhere to be found. Yet the sites listed are normally listed because I'm trading with them. Top this off with I have continued to still pull my dir.yahoo traffic with no issues at all.. So WTF is up with yahoo..
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i started a thread about this last month when i noticed it..
and contrary to whats been posted, the way this service works they are indeed selling that spot right out from the site owner , and even worse , many times they are selling a directory listing already paid.. example.. i own www.widgets.com , i buy a directory listing on yahoo for $200, i build my site for 5 years optimizing the keywords "widgets", finally obtaining #1 listing. then yahoo sells my link to wildline who sells it to the highest bidder.. before i got "xxxx" free hits from yahoo , now i pay 15% cut for every hit from yahoo From the way wildline is setup though , they say they dont sell spots to affiliates , only to owners.. seems rather silly though because any owner buying hits through them is actually buying spots they already own ( or at least thats how i see it , i could be wrong)
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heres what i snagged from seochat. looks like this is what kevsh found. Web Results may also include links to sites that participate in the Content Acquisition Program (CAP). CAP enables content providers to submit web content directly to Yahoo! for review and inclusion in the Yahoo! Search index; content providers that participate in CAP through the Search Submit program pay for these services. Participation in CAP or Site Match does not guarantee placement or ranking in search results but additional information made available through the direct data feeds may increase or decrease relevance depending on the search query. |
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I didn't think they sold spots in the normal listings
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01-04-2006, 09:36 AM | #46 |
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how come some people say google traffic is better?
do google users have more money? Do google users spend more? Is google for men & yahoo is for women when it comes to porn. What about traffic from msn. I got a boatload of #1 to #5 listings on msn, & those same keywords I am ranked on google at like #28 to #100 or something like that. Sure google would send more than msn, but what about quality?? Would a google user pay & not an msn user??? I find that most of my targeted traffic comes from yahoo & msn, & most of my freeloaders & wankers come from google. On most of my non google SE traffic, they are searching general porn keyword strings. On google they are searching solo girls using the models name and the word free. I'd rather get the other traffic. The google ones looking up the solo girls are just looking for more FREE !!!! But that's only applicable to some of my sites because of the content & keywords I have. |
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I hate to say it but yahoo does NOT sell those spots. It's luck of the draw!
I accidentally ended up with a top spot for a search term on yahoo with my affiliate code in it for a sponsor above their site. I didn't pay for it. Hell, I couldn't afford to pay for it anyway! I'm just a small fry. It lasted a month, it switched around, and then it came back to me again. It seems to do this in cycles. I do not know what caused the yahoo bot to choose my link affiliate code to the site as I am nowhere NEAR an SEO Guru. It was complete luck. I'm betting yahoo would want thousands of dollars for a spot like that, which I don't have |
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