questions for AWEmpire

[cristis]

Since this board is the only one where I can shout for help and since there are so many webmasters around who might have a constructive idea, there are some questions arising....Are you still in this business??? Check this out, since July 1st untill today, September 11th, the revshare ratios shows ~29000 raws and ~15500 uniques with no fucking sign-ups whatsoever, the PPS ones I've got, for the same period of time, 1:6400... are you fucking nuts????? What the fuck is going on with you? are you shaving? is everything ok with your program? you're starting to piss me off big fucking time. Your explanations are required ASAP. I repeat, I need AWEmpires' explanations not the masturbators who're regular sponsors ass kissers.

FYI, every webcam teaser is within its niche. Also, most of the programs are with LiveJasmin, followed by CameraBoys and Joyourself.

Thanks.

PS: don't ask me about the ~ sign, just reffer to the matter.

[Twig]

Have you tried asking them directly, and not on a message board?

[cristis]

Originally Posted by Twig

Have you tried asking them directly, and not on a message board?

I did, obvious, here's the transcript of the answer:

"Thank you for your feedback. I have forwarded your remark, we are going to have a look at this matter. I hope your ratio will improve after changing the tool on your site. We would like to help you to get your sales grown back again.

If you have any question feel free to contact us.

Best regards,
AWE staff"

And that was it! On the other hand, I've preffered to ask them on this board 'cause I had a moment of madness, I agree, after seeing all those twisted-crazy numbers, I guess I was entitled to do that, I need some straight answers.

[boneless]

did you contact any rep over there personally on icq or thru phonecall? hte reply you posted above sounds like a cut and paste reply.

[cristis]

Originally Posted by boneless

did you contact any rep over there personally on icq or thru phonecall? hte reply you posted above sounds like a cut and paste reply.

Yep, that's exactly what it is, their "cut and paste" reply. This wasn't the first shout for help, there were several spreaded over the time. On the other hand, I presume some other WM's might have a similar problem...

[Mickey_]

Hello,

First things first, gfy is not our support forum, so, just like the reply you quoted above says, 'if you have any questions feel free to contact us' via our official support ticket system.
Regardless, please feel free to email me your affiliate id and i will forward it to our account managers.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

Hello,

First things first, gfy is not our support forum, so, just like the reply you quoted above says, 'if you have any questions feel free to contact us' via our official support ticket system.
Regardless, please feel free to email me your affiliate id and i will forward it to our account managers.

LOL i don't know about the problems this guy is having, but one thing is funny when he says " I can't get a reply back from anyone with company "X" for days, so he makes a post on GFY, and 30 mins later someone from company "X" shows up to tell him GFY is not their support forum, but how can I help you.

[cristis]

Originally Posted by will76

LOL i don't know about the problems this guy is having, but one thing is funny when he says " I can't get a reply back from anyone with company "X" for days, so he makes a post on GFY, and 30 mins later someone from company "X" shows up to tell him GFY is not their support forum, but how can I help you.

There you go! isn't it funny? I've burst into laugh, too... Anyways, I'm looking forward to see what's next...

[cristis]

Mickey-AWE, the id was sent via email, hope you've got it.

Originally Posted by will76

LOL i don't know about the problems this guy is having, but one thing is funny when he says " I can't get a reply back from anyone with company "X" for days, so he makes a post on GFY, and 30 mins later someone from company "X" shows up to tell him GFY is not their support forum, but how can I help you.

Best part is, it takes them NO TIME to reply to the thread, but after days, if not weeks of waiting with no reply, you do as they say and submit again, and wait another week...

[marcjacob]

I have a guy (Douglas) on my ICQ and he is very good at answering any questions I have. Why don't you ICQ them? I'm sure you will get a good responce.

[cristis]

yep, you're right, it did happen to other or my friends in the past, too and not necessarily in regards to AWE, don't get me wrong.
I think it's a wide spreaded "tactics" among both "sides", if I can name them like that... something like "left to forget". Regretfully I cannot stay any longer so I'll wait for the resolution, if any, when I'll get back...

[katharos]

their support sucks ass ... after asking why am i getting free signups with no traffic i got answer that my seo sucks, my sites sucks, then i asked here and now they are looking at it about two weeks ... i am not promoting them anymore on my new sites ...

[cristis]

marcjacob, who is this guy? is he working at AWE? I am interested in getting an answer from the people I'm doing business with. But thanks anyways, if he wants to pop-in and participate, he can always do that

[cristis]

Originally Posted by katharos

their support sucks ass ... after asking why am i getting free signups with no traffic i got answer that my seo sucks, my sites sucks, then i asked here and now they are looking at it about two weeks ... i am not promoting them anymore on my new sites ...

Sorry to hear that... btw, what are you other options you're happy with? I might get a shot and try something else, too, why not? in fact, when both sides are happy with each other, that's business, if not... that's something else...

[marcjacob]

Originally Posted by cristis

marcjacob, who is this guy? is he working at AWE? I am interested in getting an answer from the people I'm doing business with. But thanks anyways, if he wants to pop-in and participate, he can always do that

sorry edit as I mis read. I will tell him about this thread.

[Mickey_]

Originally Posted by cristis

Mickey-AWE, the id was sent via email, hope you've got it.

Yes, your email has been forwarded to our account managers.

[dav3]

well that sucks. hopefully it gets sorted out.

[cristis]

I am looking so forward for the answer, please either post it here or email it to me. There has to be some sort of closure I'd say.
Thanks

[Atominder]

poisson distribution applied on ratios

http://www.buildinganempire.com/poisson2.html

interesting read

[cristis]

Now, that?s a surprise! Guess what? after I?ve bitched-out AWEmpire on the on-question ratios, I?ve finally got a sign-up!!! In the revshare area, in amount of $9? and not the regular $17.99 affiliate share option for the $29.99 value. Oh well, maybe they?ve changed the sign-up amounts for the affiliate payouts, don?t know.

Now my ratios are dramatically changed, from the 0(zero):15838(fifteenfuckingthousandeightfuckinghu ndredandthirtyfuckingfuckingeight), now I?ve got 1:15838!!!

Still there are some questions arising:
-Was this a random sign-up? A ?normal? one? If yes, why is it in amount of $9 and not the regular $17.99 for the $29.99 revshare sign-up?
-Are there gonna be any reccuring payouts, too?
-Was this a AWEmpire staff tryout to see if everything?s working? After the surfer?s nick it doesn?t seems like though but I don?t think it?s relevant.
-IF (bold, underlined and caps) your tracking engine is fixed, are you going to leave it as is or do you plan to ?harm? it again?
- are there anymore "non-existing", untracked sign-ups? If yes, please transfer the amounts in my epassporte account.
- can anyone from AWEmpire guarantee that I?ll not have those unbelievable bad ratios again?
-based on my knowledge, webcams still represent a viable source of income for this business. Do you think it's on a downhill trend?

I hope the problems were fixed and I?ll not be forced to post any more threads on this board in regards to AWEmpire tracking/reffering/stats issues anymore.

I'd say the time will tell, we'll see.

[Sausage]

Seen several sponsors creep over 0:10k since July.

Looking at my 2 programs declines on CC's are through the roof .. seriously 500% higher and some guys trying up to 4-5 cards without being able to get one through. I personally am even having trouble with my 4 main cards, decline decline decline decline.

The scrubbing atm is insane, maybe thats not the reason for your bad ratio but i am sure it contributes to it.

[Sausage]

Originally Posted by Atominder

poisson distribution applied on ratios

http://www.buildinganempire.com/poisson2.html

interesting read

Remember that from many years ago

Its a good read and the thread op should take a look.

[MrMaxwell]

AWE .. LoL over here.
With their Green Acres Mr. Haney sale tracking methods...
It's pretty much you're a whale or go to hell, too
I signed up when they offered a $100 bonus,, takes $100 net to clear it,
I got to $170 .. was doing roughly 1:4000
Switched to PPS to clear it, went 1:20,000 then 1:30,000

Still sitting in my account to this day $170 and who knows how much in sales that didn't seem to happen that I'll never see

The kicker is that I got this one guy to sign up and watched him do it.. and I know it wasn't counting my PPS sales. They told me oh it must have been because he already had someone elses cookie.

Please

[incredibleworkethic]

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

I signed up when they offered a $100 bonus,, takes $100 net to clear it,
I got to $170 .. was doing roughly 1:4000
Switched to PPS to clear it, went 1:20,000 then 1:30,000

Still sitting in my account to this day $170 and who knows how much in sales that didn't seem to happen that I'll never see

This is what happened with me. I think they have one HELL OF A PRODUCT, but I haven't made many more sales with them since my first EVER. So, like you, I have a couple sales and that $100 bonus still in my account.

Too many people are cookie stuffing livejasmin and the like.

Since then, I've switched to a white label solution (webcams is making me money, however, videosecrets's whitelabel is more sophisticated).

[purecharlie]

Originally Posted by cristis

- can anyone from AWEmpire guarantee that I?ll not have those unbelievable bad ratios again?

Cam sites are no different to any other sites - quality traffic converts, crap traffic doesn't. I have been promoting an AWE site for three months now and my figures are always around 1:250 because our traffic is VERY targetted.
Yes, it could be a problem with the way AWE are tracking your sales, but it could also be a problem with the traffic you are sending them.

Originally Posted by cristis

- based on my knowledge, webcams still represent a viable source of income for this business. Do you think it's on a downhill trend?

No, it's not a downhill trend, I think cam sites still represent a good area of revenue as more and more surfers are looking to the idea of interactive porn. Keep with it and maybe just tweak what you're doing a little to improve your ratios. Remember, this business does change so what you were doing last year to get good ratios through cams isn't necessarily what you need to be doing now to get the same ratios. Trial and error my friend.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by cristis

Since this board is the only one where I can shout for help and since there are so many webmasters around who might have a constructive idea, there are some questions arising....Are you still in this business??? Check this out, since July 1st untill today, September 11th, the revshare ratios shows ~29000 raws and ~15500 uniques with no fucking sign-ups whatsoever, the PPS ones I've got, for the same period of time, 1:6400... are you fucking nuts????? What the fuck is going on with you? are you shaving? is everything ok with your program? you're starting to piss me off big fucking time. Your explanations are required ASAP. I repeat, I need AWEmpires' explanations not the masturbators who're regular sponsors ass kissers.

FYI, every webcam teaser is within its niche. Also, most of the programs are with LiveJasmin, followed by CameraBoys and Joyourself.

Thanks.

PS: don't ask me about the ~ sign, just reffer to the matter.

what exactly would you like them to say ? you have shitty traffic ? are you ripping people off ? times are tough ..

You say you came here for webmasters "constructive ideas" but then you say you only want awempire to answer. Make up your mind, you already got an answer from awempire.

You came here to bitch about your shitty traffic.. If you want help you should start with a little more than "i got 29k raw and no signups", gee maybe switch sponsors ? maybe cams don't sell well for your traffic. Its impossible for anyone to give any advice based on raw unknown traffic numbers.

I could send anyone 29k and get 0 signups if i do it wrong

[ShellyCrash]

W/o seeing their back end it sounds like this may be an error within their system when someone changes their comission type.

I know some affiliate software programs have at least two DB values that need to change when switching a comission structure. Sounds to me like when you guys are going from one payout structure to another it's turning your current payout off and not turning the new comission structure back on.

[cristis]

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

W/o seeing their back end it sounds like this may be an error within their system when someone changes their comission type.

I know some affiliate software programs have at least two DB values that need to change when switching a comission structure. Sounds to me like when you guys are going from one payout structure to another it's turning your current payout off and not turning the new comission structure back on.

I was thinking about this, too, that's one of the reasons I've posted this thread. I agree that shit happens every once in a while and DB's crush but what puzzles me is that I haven't change anything in my comission type since I was adviced to switch from PPS to REVShare, and that was like 2 years ago.

[Horny Joe]

This month ratio so far - 1:506
This month referral bonus - $ 786.81 So far.

And this is a sucky month for my own performance! Normally ratios are ~1:250

[Cyber Fucker]

Awe never was good for me too ...after sending them a couple k hits with 0 results I just gave up.

[cristis]

Originally Posted by Horny Joe

This month ratio so far - 1:506
This month referral bonus - $ 786.81 So far.

And this is a sucky month for my own performance! Normally ratios are ~1:250

Good for you, congrats!